England, we'll set our football hooligans on you all. 

Originally posted by Thegeneral AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!  Our planes would be on you so fast you'd think we've been there the whole time.  Although, with our secretive government we probally are everywhere all the time!

You cant use any technology. Only physical force!

You guys can also figure out some possible alliances in such a war without any axis or ally forces. I mean, there should be some alliances to be victorious on others.

I vote for Chinese since they are outnumbered and masters of fighting techniques. Japanese have also lots of fighting philosophies, but not enough ability without technology...

I think Turks would be a hard nation to beat, since all of us are born soldiers, but our population isnt enough to fight billions of people, since we have a total population of 80 million, including women and children (in fact, they would also fight with us like they helped us in the War of Independence, but not enough to avoid one billion karate kids attacking us!)

I dont think americans would be such good wariors, since muscles dont mean you are the victorious. The thing that makes you beat your enemy lies in your heart. Braveary...

well im neither (nor are my family or friends)

but worst comes to worst, we can still get our actors on you, they take out whole armies you know

lol that is really funny

Originally posted by Thegeneral Stupid Turks.... You would NOT WIN!!!

I dont think you have the right to insult  all Turkish nation because our nation wont be able to win such a war. So I can swear at Americans since neither they would be able to win such a war...  

Originally posted by Thegeneral Stupid Turks.... You would NOT WIN!!!

It is true we would not win Turks arent extraordinarily large or muscular and I guess horses arent allowed either.(By the way lets not bring up whos stupid and whos not OK?)

If put technology away from a war, I believe  Germany, Russia and China are the best in the world, because they have best military leader, the soldiers are brave and they would absolutely follow the command. Worldwar II is a good example.

i would say depends on the location of the Battel. which place.

but generally i would say the larger population and that would be China. even they are not as large as some of the Europeans but still they are more and in these cases where no weapons used  then the Number always win.

 Numbers Of The Army Have Nothing To Do In Winning a Battle ... Cant You Remember What The Vitemanies Have Done With You Hans ! You Little Creatures Took Manchuria , Eastern Turkistan , Inner Mongoila And Tibet By Guns While These Nations Were Fighting By Swords And Dont Forget That You Couldnt Take All These Lands With The Help Of Russians.

 yes you are right ... we all can see the terror by russia in chechen and all north asia ... i wish to see a russian fighting a chechen guy without any moderen weapons : )

 Turks Tatars And Mongols - Scotlands -  Japanese - Native Americans - Germans - Chechens

The Americas pick Americans

The Russians pick Russians

The Chinese pick Chinese

The Turkish pick Turks

The others pick other

What is the point of the poll other than express national fervor?

who cares if a chinese can kungfu or any sh*t, he can kill me from distance but when hes in my territorium ill smash his head like a fly...

TOPUNUZ GELSIN ULEN!!

 You Just Admitted That Manchus And Mongols In Inner Mongolia Are Not Chinese : )

 Russia Never Helped China ?!! China Took Eastern Turkistan By The Help Of Russians And Keep That In Your Mind Always .

 I Think That You Are Always Saying That You Are Not With Your Communist Goverment But i Think That Communist Han Is Just Like The Other Hans

The Manchus who set up a huge empire in China, invaded the Uyghur Kingdom of Eastern Turkestan in 1759 and dominated it until 1862. During this period the Uyghurs revolted 42 times against the Manchu rule with the purpose of regaining their independence. In the last revolt of 1863, the Uyghurs were successful in expelling the Manchus from their motherland, and founded an independent kingdom in 1864. The kingdom was recognized by the Ottoman Empire, Tsarist Russia, and Great Britain. But for fear of Tsarist expansion into Eastern Turkestan, Great Britain persuaded the Manchu court to conquer Eastern Turkestan. The money for the Manchu invasion was granted by the British Banks. Large forces under the overall command of General Zho Zhung Tang attacked Eastern Turkestan in 1876. After this invasion, Eastern Turkestan was given the name Xinjiang which means "new territory" or "New Dominion" and in 1884 it was annexed into the territory of the Manchu empire. In 1911, the Nationalist Chinese, overthrew Manchu rule and established a republic.
The Uyghurs, who also wanted to free themselves from foreign domination, staged several uprisings against the nationalist Chinese rule during this period. Twice, in 1933 and 1944, the Uyghurs were successful in setting up an independent Eastern Turkestan Republic. But these independent republics were overthrown by the military intervention and political intrigues of the Soviet Union. It was in fact the Soviet Union that proved deterrent to the Uyghur independence movement during this period. In 1949 Nationalist Chinese were defeated by the Chinese Communists. After that the soviets helped the new communists chinese to take over the Uyghurs lands.

Originally posted by poirot All right, I agree that General Zuo Zong Tang did slaughter many Uyghurs, many unjustly and including women and children.  But the Uyghurs have also killed many Hans in the process of rebellion and revolt.  I have a distant relative who died in the hands of Uyghurs in the early parts of the twentieth century.  Sultan, if you want to fight, we can fight in private.  My MSN address: mailtopoirot515@hotmail.com

 fight in private ! looooool how old are you ? : )

our fight will be in the battelfield soon.

Sultan, it will take 1000 years for the Uyghurs to gain independence from China.  China has most of its nuclear arms bases in East Turkestan/Xinjiang.  To lose the area would be the equivalent of the U.S. losing Arizona and New Mexico.  Since the U.S. would not return Arizona and New Mexico to Mexico, I do not envision China returning the area to its Turkic residents.  Plus, a large portion of the area is Han Chinese in population. 

I feel sorry for the Uyghurs because the Uyghurs are never going to get independence.  Are the Uyghurs going to declare independence with sticks and AK-47s?  After the war in Afghanistan, any sympathy that Europe and America has towards the East Turkestan Indepedence Movement is lost.  The East Turkestan Independence Movement is now categorized by the American authorities as a terrorist organization.  It is unfortunate, but true.  Sultan, my friend, I recommend that you face the hard facts and accept the reality.

Sultan, please grow up and stop ranting on chauvinistic shouts like a teenager!

 no need for your sympothy because with sticks or even swords we will get our freedm because we have the right and this is something that you will never understand.

 they can call it anything they want , the americans made that step just to please the chinese , the east turkistan independence movement is fighting the real terroists to get our land and rights back.

 its really a hard facts that all the countries governments in the erea are gathering against the freedom of eastern turkistan.

 and we know that china can letgo manchuria , tibet and innermongolia easier than eastern turkistan since eastern turkistan became the first source of oil for them.

 i know that there will be suffering and much more to get our freedom but the reality is that we will get back sooner or later.

 one more thing , dont call me your friend because i am not.

 shouts like a teenager ! i didnt call for a private fight remember !

Sultan, you are really getting on my nerves.

Personally, I cannot support any of your political claims, especially when Eastern Turkestan Independence groups have ties to the Taliban and some went to Afghanistan to fight against Americans trying to find Osama.  It is extremist and dogmatic views like those you have exhibited that have resulted in tragic terrorist events around the globe.

And now you don't even want my friendship.  I always had sympathy for Uyghurs but now, I must think otherwise. 

I extended an invitation for a private chat so that you can let out your anger in private without disturbing a multinational forum in the public.  Your endless ranting has become a nuisance for some AE forumers (I am not the only person!)  I always welcome debate in the private and you are welcome to use any type of extreme language and swearing that you like.

 Glad To Hear That.

 Like I Want Your Support ! Huh
You Are So Called Chinese ... Ofcourse You Cant Support .

 There Are Alot Of Uyghur Turkistani Movements Around The World in Germany In America etc ...
Not Only The Eastern Turkistan Independence In The Border of Afghanistan
There is the democratic movment , the peacuful movemnet , and there are some movemnets decided to fight china as the one you mentioned
america captured the members of this movment by the help of the pakistani government in afghanistan
and they were like 12 to 30 persons and now they are in guantinamo base but they were found that they are not gulity
and they have nothing to do with alqaeda as your governemt claim so stop these lies
those people who were in the border of afghanistan are not terroirst , they are patriots warroior who wants freedom for thier land

" Since 2001, the US has held 22 Uyghur Detainees in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Most of these detainees have been judged to never have been a threat to US national security, and are slated for release. However, under international and US national law, these detainees cannot be returned to China, where they are likely to face torture or execution. UHRP joins Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch in demanding they are not returned to China, or any other nation that would violate their human rights.

"Any assurances from China that it will not mistreat returnees would not be worth the paper they are written on. – Brad Adams, Human Rights Watch

"Amnesty International said it had confirmed reports that many Uyghurs were in a medium-security prison wing reserved for the most "cooperative" detainees deemed not to threaten US interests and most likely to be freed. However, these prisoners face a dilemma unique from other inmates: they have no safe place to go if freed. In many ways, China has been taking advantage of the U.S.-led war on terror to wage state terrorism of its own against Uyghurs and other minority nationalities within East Turkistan (Xinjiang) and other provinces.

 from uyghuramerican.org

 destroying the history of the turkic uyghur and killing them weekly , testing nuclear weapons on eastern turkistan ... this is the real terror.

 freedom for eastern turkistan.

hmmmm........nice website you posted Sultan, uyghuramerican.org.

I was going to join, but then I noticed the $10 admissions fee.

I would have considered anyways, but then I thought back on your harsh comments and I decided not to join.  I would not want to support extremists like you and cause more suffering for mother earth.

If you truly want independence (and the Ugyhur right to Turkestan is debatable, since historically it has been claimed by Uyghurs, Russians, Chinese, Tibetans, Khitans, Mongols, and other ethnic groups), then start by reading about Ghandi.  I doubt if the international community would want to support extremist and militaristic movements/revolutions. 

I am not denying the murders that the Chinese Communist Party has committed towards Ughyurs, but you have to admit that whenever there is a conflict, there are two sides of the coin.  Ughyurs have also done considerable damage to Chinese civilians as well, as your comments and tone would certaintly reflect.

If you really want support, you have to start by making a few friends, and not just Turkish friends.

Originally posted by RED GUARD         China, cause we got the kung fu and the numbers!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Have u seen the Kung Fu Master of 25 years vs. the 3 month Brazilian Jujistsu fight!!! long story short... Kung Fu don't work outside of Jackie Chan movies...

It looks really cool tho.

Oh yeah, and if we're talking about scenarios where nations cannot use technology to fight... then how do u want for example, the US to fight Germany? swim and run?!  i'd think that'd be exhausting...

Azimuth is right, depends alot on where the battle takes place... plus in a real case scenario where one nation was trying to invade another: if China tried to invade another country, lets say Russia, every country neighbouring Russia would help Russia out of fear of being next, or help China to get a piece of Russia

and just out of curiosity, the FRENCH?!

Arash