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Topic: Warhammer 40,000 vs. Star trek and/or Star Wars
Posted By: Count Belisarius
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 vs. Star trek and/or Star Wars
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 17:41
Which one do you think would win, on the ground in space, or in a ship to ship boarding attack?.  

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Posted By: Seko
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 17:53
When do you think Count Belisarius will stop turning AE into his own playground?

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 17:57
Certainly 40k - genetically engineered supersoldiers (If it's the imperium at least) versus phasers? Nope
 
This should really be in the tavern or modern culture, or gaming etc...


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Posted By: Illirac
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 17:58
Originally posted by Seko

When do you think Count Belisarius will stop turning AE into his own playground?


The day someone will invent an arena (a computer game of course) where will fight anything and everything he wants to


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For too long I've been parched of thirst and unable to quench it.


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2008 at 19:01
I hope I'm alive to see it

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2008 at 21:01
And Seko I'm sorry I thought I was posting this thread in the tavern.

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Posted By: Władysław Warnencz
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2008 at 21:29
40 000 of course! It is far more brutal and war-oriented game with more original and realistic units,capable of defeating probably any other type of warriors we have seen in computer games or movies.

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 00:24

Yeah but you see Picard blow up the borg all the time, and Q and the organians could handle the psykers, and the people from star trek always a technobabble solution to their problems.   



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Posted By: hugoestr
Date Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 02:18
The force will destroy those Warhammy people.

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Posted By: gcle2003
Date Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 11:52
So will switching off the machine.

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 12:24
Yes, Starfleet does have loads of vessels, but those are about 300 years from now, and the imperium of man in 40K, well, that's lasted for millenia and has an entire society geared towards war. Moreover, can you imagine phasers trying to hurt a space marine? The imperium has numbers and technology. Q is just cheating - he's essentially god!

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 02-Aug-2008 at 14:41
But phasers strip away atoms and since spce marine armor isn't desinge t o with stand that sort of thing it would seriously injure said space marine if it didn't kill him outright (I've always wondered why there were no female spce marines, and why the space marines didn't marry or have children), and Q would have to handle the warhammer gods and the pykers, and the Wrahammer imperium is geared toward war not much else, whereas the federation has all kinds of different technology's and they have fought countless wars and won them, and star trek beats star wars easy, their ships can go faster than the speed of light, whereas star wars ships can only go at the speed of light. Now enough on the imperium, how about star trek vs. Chaos space marines.

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2008 at 03:05
Yes, but the federation has only lasted for about 300 years, whilst all of the races in the warhammer 40'000 universe have lasted countless millenia, and their technology is frankly far more advanced (the immaterium allows ships to almost instantly jump across the galaxy like the borg transwarp conduits in voyager). Moreover, the federation and most of the other races in the Star Trek universe don't really have the numbers - Chaos has innumerable cultists, admittedly a few traitor legions, and as many creatures as the warp can muster. Not so much with the Tau, Necrons or Eldar, but think about the Tyrannids, Imperium and Orks - there are just so many of them! They would gradually wear down the fabric of the federation or any other state in the Star Trek universe. Moreover, think about it - the states in 40K are just so much larger and can just make more troops - and despite phasers, well, an emperor class imperial fleet battleship versus a galaxy class starship - the former is...much...bigger! Moreover, Q doesn't really care about fighting for any side - I think he'd rather be off somewhere doing stupid random stuff. 
 
...God I'm such a geek
 
EDIT: Ship to ship boarding attack - certainly 40K: Terminators with teleporters versus Empire troops or Starfleet security forces? Not a chance!


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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2008 at 03:25
They could just beam them up and then beam each of their atoms out in to space, and beam the daemons back in to the warp and the organians would help if their survival was at stake and you forgot the new sovereign class ships, and the defiant, and the eldar might join the federation and marry into the vulcans and thus preserve their race and the federaton gets the eldar craftwolds and technology. 

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2008 at 23:06
True, but the Eldar are few and far between, divided into numerous craftworlds and, like most of the races in the warhammer 40'000 universe, probably quite xenophobic and supremist. I don't think that the "prime directive" point of view of the federation and their peaceful ideology would attract many in the Warhammer 40'000 universe. Also, just like Star Trek has some technobabble solution to problems, Warhammer 40'000 will have a similar one as well. One point for the federation - technology is stagnant in the 40K universe, whereas in the Federation it's constantly evolving. The Star Trek and Star Wars universes also have genetically engineered troops such as the clone troops, the suliban and the Jem Ha'dar, but probably not in the vast amount of numbers (both imperial adeptus artestes/space marines, traitor chaos marines and other races' modified troops).

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 04:14
I think the eldar and the vulcans would get along just fine. And the space marines wouldn't do so well against the borg, And if the federation can defeat the borg they shouldn't have a problem with the imperium.

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Posted By: Balaam
Date Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 07:41
You can't beat the Imperium, its just impossible.

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Posted By: rider
Date Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 12:06
I'll say that the Imperial Starfleet will win everday.

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 15:26
Yeah right, Against the space marines? and you can beat the imperium all they've got is artillery shells and plasma, which federation shields can shrug off with ease.  

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 04-Aug-2008 at 22:02
Count - look at the other weapons that they've got though - the Imperium has got loads of particle weapons (Las guns, Multi-Meltas, Inferno guns etc?) it's just that loads of them are not used because of the sheer size of the imperium!

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2008 at 14:32
Yeah lasers and flame throwers which again the federation shields can shrug off in ease, and the imperium is dying, if they send ships to attack the federation they will leave their defenses spread thin so while they are fighting the feds, a new orc waagh will happen. 

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Posted By: Władysław Warnencz
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2008 at 14:37
Originally posted by Balaam

You can't beat the Imperium, its just impossible.
 
Exactly! There hasn't been a faction in any computer game yet that was stronger than the Imperium.


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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 05-Aug-2008 at 19:02
Yeah but Picard is smarter than any Comissar. 

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Posted By: Aster Thrax Eupator
Date Posted: 06-Aug-2008 at 19:58
...Smarter than one of those Tech-Priests or Space Marine champions who have lived for thousands of years and are genetically and biologically enhanced? Methinks not! Everyone seems to be forgetting that Warhammer 40'000 is concentrated on ground combat, whilst Star Trek mainly shows ship to ship combat - don't forget that Imperial ships are much larger and also have shields - shields which have been in use and perfected for millennia. Morover, surely a tech-priest makes a better engineer than Scotty or La-Forge?

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Posted By: Władysław Warnencz
Date Posted: 06-Aug-2008 at 20:18
It doesn't matter how smart you are in a war with millions of soldiers fighting and dieing monthly.In such huge war numbers.preparation and morale is what matters,not some cheap tricks.

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 07-Aug-2008 at 13:48
Not to mention the Techpriests are geared toward war and their technology is shrouded in ritual and secrecy and in the warhammer 40k universe technology is stagnant.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23-Aug-2008 at 22:36
The imperium of man contains over a million worlds it has countles armies. its curusers dwaf even the federations lagest and most powerful ships.  The said ships can travers the galexy faster than any federation ship and can destroy planets with the use of verios types of planet killing weapons. on the ground a fasor may be better than a las gun (not likly since they have been shoen in nemisis to have the durability of paper masay) but for every faser there are 1000 las guns with baontes and dont get mey stated on imperal armour.


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2008 at 15:18
The federation has over three million worlds and the imperium wouldn't stand a chance against the borg and federation sheilds can withstand anything the imperium throws against them with ease and the imperium is about to fall in the new fifth edition the golden throne is breaking and technology is constanly evolving in the federation and another reason why the federatioon wins would be because their cool and realistic whereas the warhammer forty thousand universe is lame, and in the federration the planets aren't named after pop stars and soft drinks. 

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2008 at 16:24
frist piont the federation has at most 300 worlds second imperal ships are bigger and if there torpidos are as big as defiants class. the imperium ships are faster40k warp with all its proplems is still faster most of the time, they have no advertion to virus bombing worlds the federation has isues in killing planets. and lasers can effet fed sheilds its mentioned in a next generation episode they just need to be big enough.  they also have energy lances which will make mince meet of fed or borg ships and in bourding ations they have the most useful weapon, the shot gun and auto rilfe,  and they imperal navy arms man are far more acurat than red/yellow shirts.  Last there is the inquation who make starfleet intelgence and section 31 look like a joke.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 13:56
sorry for the double post but i was rong on the point the federation only have 300 wourlds they have 150 member woulds with a total of 3000ish colonies so in total 3150 ish worlds


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 14:38
sorry for the double post but i was rong on the point the federation only have 300 wourlds they have 150 member woulds with a total of 3000ish colonies so in total 3150 ish worlds


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 14:40
The federation would win because 1 phaser's strip away atoms. 2 Q wouldn't like the chaos gods, the eldar gods and the emperor, and various other pykers/demons etc. enroaching on his territory and since he's omniescient he can something baout it and the rest of the continuum would pitch in along with the prophets and the organians 3 suppose the eldar and the tau join the federation and suppose osmespace marines from the cursed founding chapters join them, along with millions of humans form the worlds of the tyrrancical empire join the federation 4 the empire is in decline and their technology is stagnant whereas federation technology is constanly evolving and covers' all sorts of fields whereas the empire is geared toward war, and the federation can make new weapons of war and they can employ a technobabble solution to their problems and while the empire is fighting the fed's the orc's will launch a new waaaagh!! the cron's will attack chaos will attack the list goes on and on.       

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 14:41
sorry for the double post but i was rong on the point the federation only have 300 wourlds they have 150 member woulds with a total of 3000ish colonies so in total 3150 ish worlds


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 15:01
first the pasers have to get though the voidshields then the heaverly armerd hulls of the ships which are much thiker than any thing the domion, klinons, fed, borg ect. use second the Q may be powerfull but they would not be able to match the chaos gods in power, the warp is not a good thing to mess with.  The eldar ext. would not join the federation for the simple fact there are many races in it which have pykic potecal, use there pykic powers but have no idia about chaos,  the crons would kill eavry thing including the fed as would the orks, the cursed fonding chapters would not join them and even if the federation could win in space they could not win on the ground. techno bable is a proplem which can be over come by faith in the emeror.  oh and when the assans start to be used count teh admarty and most of the civilen govement as dead.  oh and worlds would at fist seceed from the impreum then stop when a few are virus bombed as an exaple or space marines are used to make a piont.  and out of intrest what do you think is the best star trek univers race/ worier, eg a borg drone (pafetic zompies), star fleet red shirt or klingon worrers wilding backleths.


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 26-Aug-2008 at 15:27
You need to be realistic if the fed's win in the and blow up the ships then there are no troop's to win on the ground and the Q's are omniscient so can whatever 40K throw's them if the fed's can beat the borg then can beat the cron's etc. And the emperor is not a god. And I think that people would immigrate from the empire to the federation, and you havn't given a reason why the eldar and the cursed founding chapter's wouldn't join. I think that the coolest race are the klingons picture klingons in captured space marine armor, and like I said before technology in the federation is constantly evolving. P.S could you spell your posts correctly please? no offense.     

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 01:57
Can anyone tell me why there aren't any female space marines?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 02:22
The eldar ect would not join the federation for several reasons the eldar the easyest to explain.  The dominant spies in the federation is the humans which are considered moghn-kie (i think thats the term) it roughly means, from the context ive seen it used in cattle or little more than beasts.  in short the eldar will properly screw the federation over.  and the feds wont win in space a large fleet for them is consider to be 30 odd ships with no more than 1 sovereign or galaxy class (rember they only built 6 of those origonly) a soverin is what 800m in length and can travers the galexy in about 75 years give or take a bit not including wormholes ect.  a sovrin only has a magazen of 60 quantom torps and 200 photon torps the latter are considered by most to have a maxuim yeild of 64.4 megatons in comparison a dominator class cruser which make up the bulk of the sector fleets of segmentum ultimar are about 2.5ishkm in length, have amour over 50m thick in places proberly 100 at the prow of adimantium.  its armament inculdes a muiltided of weapons high powered lasers ect.  and more importantly a prow nova canon which accelerates very heavy projectile to almost c which then implodes making a very big explotion. much bigger than 64.4 mega tons.  they have shields designed to wither this sort of fire power. and the warp alows pasage across the galaxy in months to years baring the ocational blip (time dosnt follow the rules in the warp)

a kilgon could not beet a space marine in power armour in close combat and wouldn't even know where to begin in understanding how to use a suite.  Q properly wouldnt get involved in a human vs human war (starfleet is mainly human and the fed capitol is earth)

the emporer is not a god but is believed to be a god and that's what's important and if we did this at the time of the great crudade then the flegling imperium is quite a nice place technology is going forward and the emporer who deninges he is a god has the potencal to kill gods or at least wound them with his phyic potencal. being the most powerful pycher since the old ones.

The good impreal citizans will cry herasy every where the federation goes,  "there consorting with xenos,  they do not understand about the machein spirit or make proper blessings to it."  And despite the properganda there are nice places in the imperium the ultramar sector for one.  there will be no mass defections.

although i do think worf runing areound in power arourmor would be funy it just wouldnt happen.  I look forward to your response and i remind you that the if the imperium wants to make a point it will deploy an assign, potentioly an evisor (the pyhcos with the skull masks) to kill the sentralised comand of starfleet there realy though and where good armour if you can spot them before they kill you.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 02:25
oh and the reason there aren't any female space marines is the genetics dosnt work quite right for them and the gene seed is presumablely taken from the Y chromosome of the primarchs


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 14:51
Why wouldn't the cursed founding chapter's join? and I think the eldar would join or at lest allie themselves with the vulcans to preserve their race and thus the fed's inheirit the eldar's phycic power's and technology not many spcae marines can withstand a wraithlord and who knows' the tau might join or become allies, and in star trek technology is constantly evolving and the Q's would take a hand if the 40k gods moved in their turf, I'd like to see the emporer fight one of those and you do realize that most people worship (pay lip service) to the machine spirit, the emporer, etc. to keep the inquisition of their back's. And while 40k is fighting the fed's, the ork's, cron's, etc. will attack imperial territory,(the damocles crusade all over again) and who say's the fight has to be against the imperium?. I think it would be quite interesting to read about the first female space marine.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27-Aug-2008 at 23:35
you do resise that all of federation territory is impreal territory holy tera is eath 39000 years down the road
the dragons properly on mars just asleep/ stasis
the eldar couldent interbreed with the vulcans (its a mirical you get any fertiel kilinog/human hibridis ext. defiing all natral laws mules arnt fertile and that a cross between hourse and donkey to relitively close specis from the same planit.

the tau are an intreasting one they would not join the fed they will "surgest" that they join the tau empire insteed (with a pulse rifal aimed at the feds heads and there ships are papermatay, fire worrier is considered very low in terms of cannon.  look up the rules for battle fleet gothic here: http://www.specialist-games.com/battlefleetgothic/Default.asp
to get a better comparison of ships weapons in the 41st millinum, waring this may not fit descriptions in books for several resons just use it to compare 40k ships to 40k ships

the impreums tech may not be evolving fast buts its a dam site more reliable vox-casters (depending which would it is from) are valve operated so lower tech yes heavier yes, but more durable and can work in high ECM conditions and will carire on working if an emp goes off and if they have an auto pistol that's a gun that works oh not forget the bayonets

your fogeting the impreuim more prasisly the adeptus machicus is looking for the complete SCT (mother of all replicators you whant it it will make it)

most of the population actually geulay believe the emporers is a god and the machein spirit is real its what makes things work. the impreals tech is highly advanced in most fields it does have things like data slates and computers it also has more backwards things as well like valve oporated radios (vox-casters) the machien spirit is the softwhere or in some cases is actuly an AI like in the case of a landrader.  if you apese the macine spirit of your gun it wont jam.

most ordany people don't know about the inquisition, guard regiments are rutinly exicutied after an engament with choas to stop the very real risk of coruption. there are exeptions major campains for instance.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 00:50
oh and as for the cursed founding chapters such as the leagon of the damed they are still loyal they just cant go any where near the inquisition for fear of being expunged


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 28-Aug-2008 at 21:50
Originally posted by sam034


The Eldar couldn't interbreed with the vulcans (its a miracile you get any fertile Klingon/Human hybrid's ect. defying all natural laws.
 
Actually there was a half eldar space marine librarian in the fourth edition. And thats' what sci fi's all about defying natural law's. And the fed's would win because they are going on strong, whereas the empire's about to fall, in the new fifth edition the golden throne is cracking. That's not to say I don't like 40k, I just don't like the imperium. It's so cool to be able to field two story battle tank's alongside demon's that are basically massive ten foot tall red skinned body builder's with horn's and anger managment issue's.   


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 22:20
ok i will conseed that point but. I realy dought theres a eldar human highbird runing areound who is a space marine.  If the thone does stop working all humans are f***ed it doesnt matter if your in the federation or not its going to be a second age of strife untill the emporer is reborn and reunites humaity there will still be pockets of it left such as ultramar which is the most stable and self serficent region in the impreuim.

I have no problem with si-fi righters deifing the laws of physics,  i enjoy that part
what i hate is utupiun socities when quite frankly its not going to happen.

hows the federation depited in the next generation even going to survive in the 41st meileium where there are evils like the crons, eldar orks (phasers are naf and dont have the fire rate to kill enough of them), tua (evil commie necron creations), dark eldar, and the curbtion of chaos. even if they can beet the imperium which they cant when impreal escort ships are better that your shiney newest most advanced poteccaly most powerful ship. which there are less than 10 of (both sovrin and galexy class) when there are millions of escorts which are faster more manovarable at sub light speed and are just better. and i will point out again that the federation intelegece and section 31 are so laughable in comparison to there impreal counter parts the inquisiton (which is a cooler name in it self) and the offo assaium (think thats right) which would make it so the impreum does not need to fight.  There are also meny things in sol which are very very scary lets just say stay away from titan and stay away from mars and for that matter tera but that just has a wall of fortrases not nealy as scery as the other 2


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 22:26
Which is your favorite race? mine is the EldarSmile do you htink that humans' would survive if the emporer fell? also have you read the Horus heresy?Smile 

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 22:41
hmm.. first xenos scum my favorote race are of course the good men and women of the imperium all who stray from the empores light will be shot,  if the emporer fell bad things would happern for about 1000+ years starting with the loss of tera when the breached webway gate in the empores thone room is reopened (what you didnt think all that phychic power was being used to keep the astanomicun going), it would be a second age of strife, a few pockets would remain ultramar for instace which only imports luxarly goods and which has a very large force defending it.  Tzench will die, then one of three things will happen 1 the emporer will be reborn, 2 he will become the 5th chaos god the god of order, and 3 he just dies (far to boring)

i am curently reeding the hourus herasy and am waiting for mecheanchum the next installment.  i dont like the edar or tau i find eldar to flimsay and have the constiutance of paper massay whilst tau are space commies of the worst order and are creations of something bad posible the deciver crons 2.0 and GW have to contiualy chance fluff to make shour they dont die theyve chaned taus first contact with the nids at least once already.

i persolny play ultramarins and impreal gaurd and am planing on a therid army soon posible orks or thousand sons.  i also have an impreal navy force in BFG


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 22:58
Who is your favorite character? I like Loken.Clap "All who stray from the emporer's light shall be shot" that's what an inquistion unit told my army of wraithlord's, poor inquisiton unitEvil%20Smile attacking my Wraithlord's was a bad ideaEvil%20SmileBig%20smile Mon keigh's make excellent pet'sSmile (with the exception of ultramarines they always' make such a mess of the carpet) my new pet is the leader if the aforementioned inquisition unit, those sister's of battle sure are cuteWink for a mon-keigh that isSmile   

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 23:04
my favorate carater who the rules are no longer avalable for (am making an apoclibls data sheet for him though) is captain invictus of the ultarmarins first company. he died at the battle of macragge.  The inqueistor ovolsy had only just been risn from the ranks of the acolites then you do not charge wrath lords unless.  A you have spacmarin asslut terminatos to back you up with thunder hammers or b you have some realy intrestion kit to stop you from being killed.



Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 29-Aug-2008 at 23:32
They had grey knight terminator's not that it did them any goodEvil%20Smile 

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Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 02-Sep-2008 at 22:44
Can you tell me why the space marines don't marry?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02-Sep-2008 at 23:42
they dont there worrier monks, (well as close as you get to them) i dont realy know

any way we digress

right lets see how do you think the impreum would have delt with the domion (no other enemies to worry about) say in the battle seen in oh i dont know the one in the sacrifice of angels season 6 ds9.


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2008 at 02:03
Those jem'hadar dudes are vicious and they've got their own claoking devices and the shapeshifter's could give the imperium LOT'S trouble suppose one of them snuck in to the palace as Custodian and destroyed the throne.  Adn the fed's would be around all they have to do is figure out the power armor and presto besides pahser's strip away atom's once they get the sheild's down the imperial troop's areCensored    

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2008 at 10:59
that wasnt the question i was asking about how do you think the imperum would fair in the space battle against the domion at the battle mentioned above.  i think the impreum would win wit one retrabution class battle ships 2 1 overlord battle cruser, 1 tryrant class in a squadren with a gotic class, one squadren of 2 lunar class crusers and a amagedon class battle cruser, a squadren of 3 duntless light crusers suported by a sqadren fo 4 firestorm frigates, 8 swords (in two squadrens of 4) and 12 cobra class destroyers (again in squadrens of 4)

and please tell me where you found out that phasers strip atoms away that sounds quite nasty and un-kind for the federation who are gaint space commys/hippies who ague morality of weapons like that


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2008 at 16:35
Watch the show manoSmile  besides they use them for defense, and imagine what that would do to space marine armorEvil%20Smile 

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2008 at 16:41
oh right you meen the ocation when they vaperis people who whaer less armout than an ork. and cant hit the broad side of a barn door.  nothing to an armoured space marine who can suvie hits from guess flayers which are better at that sort of things.

any way what about the question what about the battle i thing the jem hadar would be slourted before they got in range.


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2008 at 16:55
Could you spell correctly please?

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03-Sep-2008 at 17:13
maybe but my point still stands how would the dominion fair in the stated battle against the imperium.


Posted By: Count Belisarius
Date Posted: 15-Nov-2008 at 15:56

Star Trek would win because they have over three million worlds, they beat all their enemies, the phasers and disputors, quantum and photon torpedos, replicators, their tech is constantly evolving, they are tolerant, the ships are powerful enough to crack open a planet (That was in TOS imagine how much more powerful they are now) their ships are faster. They have Q, and the Eldar would join the feds or at least the Exos would so they get wraithlords and all that good (The Eldar aren't made out of paper mache, armor, phcychic powers, vehicles, wraithlords and wriathguard), the Soul Drinkers would join, the imperial ships suck their guns are basically artillery pieces with giant bullets that work like cannons from the days of wooden ships, and Trek has Brikars.   



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02-May-2009 at 11:08
dont debate with thaat guy. he never listens to logic.
especially in the han vs roman forums


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Posted By: warwolf1969
Date Posted: 12-Jul-2010 at 06:29
In space then the Federation would win, as would any Star Trek forces.  On land my money is on 40K.  Nothing in Star Trek could take on Imperium Space Marines.  So ultimately 40k would win because it would capture worlds and hold them.  Star Wars wouldn't stand a chance against either.


Posted By: Nixon007
Date Posted: 09-Jan-2012 at 14:15
I know im new but you did forget one race that the 40k world has that would destroy everyone on both sides no matter what you did to them The Tyrnids. would make sort work of the borg and the jem hadra plus the adpat qiucker then the borg


Posted By: Khorneflakez
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2016 at 04:05
Lol how much of a fanboy can someone be, saying that the Imperials wont stand a chance against your fragile Enterprise they will easy peasy ram the hell out of your fragile ships and laserlance your shields to death. Having shields dooes not mean you are invincible. Shields and Spaceships eat energy and shields usually collaps if penetrated enough. If thats not happening in the star trek universe it is extremely unrealistic and pathetic. Energyshields that eat all kind of damage also sound stupid to me. Your opinions sounds way more lame to me than Warhammer 40K. Haha and the borgcubes look stupid in my opinion. Such things like the borgs, wich are looking stupid as f*** aswell as theyr ships öhm i mean cubes... roll the dice... , are the main reason why i would always prefer warhammer 40k and star wars before ever going to be a dreckie öhm sorry treckie. The imperium of man will purge you human heretics of other universes. At least how many enterprises are in your star trek universe? The imperials come with a whole navy of ships with supreme armor, having strong shields aswell, while having enough firepower ready to ram the shit out of picard and his crew. Star Trek is such out dated sci fi, it sucks aswell as it fanboys. For the emperah! For Terra! May the inquistion purge the galaxy of your heresy and xenoloving tendencies. But Still i would never say there is no chance to win against them...


Posted By: Khorneflakez
Date Posted: 03-Oct-2016 at 04:31
There are no female Spacemarines because of the fact that the Spacemarines are gentically engnieered from the geneseed of theyr primarchs and those where genetically engineered from the geneseed of the god emperor of man. There are Battlesisters called Sororitas wich are badasses, too. Even if not having the strength of an adeptus astartes...


Posted By: chrishills helios
Date Posted: 23-Nov-2016 at 06:06
It doesn't matter how smart you are in a war with millions of soldiers fighting and dieing monthly Cry



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