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Topic: Indian Food History
Posted By: anum
Subject: Indian Food History
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2007 at 22:13
I have always wondered what was Indian food like before the Mughals? Does any one know what indians use to eat before the muslims came? Majority of the Indian dishes today have been influenced by afghan or persian dishes through the mughals.



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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2007 at 23:45
Probably the Dutch and Portuguese had more influence on Indian food than anyone else.
 
 


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Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2007 at 20:03
what are you talking about??? how is indian food similar to dutch or portuguese?


Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2007 at 20:27
They introduced all of the ingredients from the new world to India.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2007 at 20:46
This thread is quite idiotic based on the ideas presented so far.
For instance there are at least 14 books in just 11th century that talk about different foods available in the north part of the country, not to mention other regions.  This will make it all prior to coming of the Muslims or the Euro guys in India.
 
Prior to the creation of religion that we know as Islam, there are books from 3 rd century till 7th century which do have descriptions of foods available and off course eating habits of people.  One has to just read and not be lazy trying to formulate things on internet or look for information on internet. 
 
If any of you are serious and have an open mind with some money in your pocket, then acquire language skills and an abillity to read other scripts.  Else you will create similar threads which are baseless.


Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 16-Dec-2007 at 21:03
^ ok when did i say indians didn't have food before muslims? all i am saying is many of indian dishes today are because of muslims who came to india


Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 02:15
Whats rather odd is that chilli peppers are supposed to have been introduced into the subcontinent after the 1490s according to "historians" but somehow Indians were using chillis in cooking long before that. 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 02:29
Chillis are from the Americas. It is impossible Indians used them before globalization. It is possible, though, they have a similar plant with a less potent effect, that was replaced by chilli peppers.

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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 02:36
Originally posted by maqsad

Whats rather odd is that chilli peppers are supposed to have been introduced into the subcontinent after the 1490s according to "historians" but somehow Indians were using chillis in cooking long before that. 
 
It would be very interesting to order a dish of Dum Aloo in the 1480's.


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Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 03:21

actually i discovered that south indian dish called idli was invented in 7 Ad



Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 03:32
Originally posted by pinguin

Chillis are from the Americas. It is impossible Indians used them before globalization. It is possible, though, they have a similar plant with a less potent effect, that was replaced by chilli peppers.


Unless chilli peppers were brought to the Americas from India or SE Asia long before 1492.


Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 03:39
i think green chillis and some others have been growing in india for long time, you can find those in jungles


Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 03:59
Originally posted by maqsad

Originally posted by pinguin

Chillis are from the Americas. It is impossible Indians used them before globalization. It is possible, though, they have a similar plant with a less potent effect, that was replaced by chilli peppers.


Unless chilli peppers were brought to the Americas from India or SE Asia long before 1492.
 
 
Indian explorers brought chilli peppers from India to the Americas in order to use as bait for small flightless birds.


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Posted By: jdalton
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 04:15
Originally posted by Paul

Indian explorers brought chilli peppers from India to the Americas in order to use as bait for small flightless birds.

...And then the birds went extinct in 1491 so everybody went back home?

Seriously though, European cooking would also be unrecognizable without American ingredients. Imagine Italy without tomatoes (or noodles) or Ireland and Russia without potatoes! Those who have mentioned having books on ancient Indian cooking, please share specifics! How was Subcontinental cooking the same or different from today?


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Posted By: jayeshks
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 18:36
Here's an article on the topic from The Hindu in 2004:
http://www.hindu.com/seta/2004/11/04/stories/2004110400061500.htm


Changes in the Indian menu over the ages

THE FOOD that we Indians have been eating has been, over the millennia, steadily evolving both in variety and taste. Fortunately for us, these have been identified from relics and fossils, and also described in the written lore over the years.

As discussed in the last article two weeks ago, the late Dr. K. T. Achaya has analysed these in a scholarly and entertaining way in his books Indian Food: A Historical Companion and A Historical Dictionary of Indian Food. He traces how our food habits and preferences have changed in stages over the last 4000 years, from the Indus Valley days through the Vedic times and after the influence of Buddhist and Jain thought, and their impact on the Dharma Sutras and Arthasastra of around 300 BC.

By the time we reach the Middle Ages (1000-1200 AD), we find several texts and commentaries across the country that talk about culinary habits of local people and their kings. A meal was now expected to have six components of quality and taste.

Royal meal

These are madhura (sweet), amla (sour), lavana (salty), kata (pungent), tikta (bitter) and kasaya (astringent), as prescribed earlier on by Sushruta (around 600 AD). The Bhavissayattakaha (of AD 1000) describes the royal meal of King Shrenika thus. First were served fruits that could be chewed (grape, pomegranate, ber), then fruits to be sucked (sugarcane, oranges, mangoes).

Food that could be licked came next and in the fourth course came solid sweet items such as sevaka, modaka and phenaka. Rice followed next and the sixth was of broths. Curd preparation made the seventh course and the eighth ended with thickened milk flavoured with saffron. Items such as parpata (papad) and vataka (vadam) were common.

The extant vegetables ranged pretty much as before — cucumber, brinjal, snake gourd and other gourds, yams, French beans and cluster beans, leafy greens, onions and garlic, coconut, cowpea, sweet potato (?) and such. It was with the entry of the Portuguese that a floodgate of new vegetables entered the Indian land and kitchens.

They brought potato, tomato, tapioca, groundnuts, corn, papaya, pineapple, guava, avocado, rajma (kidney bean), cashew, sapota (chiku), and of course capsicum and chilli in all its forms (and I felt bad hearing about idli importation!). Perhaps the cauliflower and cabbage came from Europe or Latin America too, but certainly a particular form of cottage cheese did come from the Portuguese. It was this that became the chhana of Bengal and Orissa — the base for many Bengali sweets (Sandesh in its modern form, and of course inventions called Rasogolla, Khirmohan, Mouchak, Pantua, Sitabhog, Chhena Puda, and so forth).

The Portuguese word for grain, grao, was taken up to describe Indian pulses as Bengal gram, horse gram and other grams. While the Arabs and Central Asians brought bajra, jowar, lobia and forms of bread (roti) into India, the Portuguese enriched Indian food through their diverse introductions. When we eat Aloo-poori, we partake of the richness of the produce of people from West Asia and Latin America!

Mughal influence

The next major influence on Indian cuisine came with the Mughals, starting with Babar who came in 1526 to stay but four years here. While he remained aloof to the Indian supper-tables, his son Humayun took to them easier and also introduced a few new items to it. It is with Akbar, and through the book Ain-i-Akbari, that we know of many new dishes, ovens and recipes that came into India through the Mughal court. Dishes like khichri, palak-sag, biryani, pilaf, haleem, harisa, qutab (samosa), yakhni, kabab, do-pyaza, dumpukht, naan, tandoori, chapati (phulka) and khushka.

The delicious cold kulfi was made at court by freezing a mixture of khoa, pista nuts and zafran essence in a metal cone after sealing the open top with dough. (The only modification today is to use aluminium or plastic cones with their own caps). Jahangir, unlike his father, enjoyed meat, but will be remembered for popularizing falooda (a jelly made from boiled wheat strainings mixed with fruit juices and cream).

With the Mughal introduction of the varieties of bread, meat dishes (particularly of fowl) and the ovens to make them, and their methods to make ice locally, the cuisine of much of North India transformed forever.

The Chinese had their influence too, though not to the extent of the Portuguese and the Moghuls. Mulberry, blackberry and the litchi fruit came to us through them. Of Chinese origin are also the sweet cherry and the peach. China also developed the leafy variety of Brassica juncea (rai), which we in India use as a vegetable. Camphor is a Chinese import and introduction (it is even today called chinakarpura).

The soybean was imported from China into India in 1908 for cultivation, though it caught on widely only after the U.S. variety was introduced in 1970s. And the most precious introduction of China to India (and to the world at large) is of course their cha or teh, namely tea. Just imagine what we do first thing in the morning — we pay obeisance to the Arabs with a cup of coffee (they brought it to us in the 1600s) or to the Chinese with our steaming cuppa.

Introduction of apple

Compared to this cornucopia, the British brought us little in terms of food. Fish and chips or Yorkshire pudding pale in comparison to what we got from the Arabs, Portuguese and Moghuls, but the British did sensitise us to at least one fruit, namely the apple. Local varieties of apple are recorded to have occured in Kashmir (called amri, tarehli and maharaji), and Dalhara in 1100 AD talked about a "ber as big as a fist and very sweet, grown in North Kashmir", which is likely an apple. But it was the colourful Britisher Frederick "Pahari" Wilson who established a flourishing apple farm in Garhwal, where they grow red and juicy Wilson apples to this day.

In these days of American imports into India such as Pizza, Burgers, French fries and colas, it is well to remember the best import we have had from these, namely apples and express our gratitude to the American Mr. Stokes.

He settled in Kotgarh near Simla in the 1920s and started apple orchards there, and helped in the proper grading, packing and marketing of the fruit.

India-America amity

The two varieties he introduced, called `Delicious', have now become the major Indian apple varieties, making the Himachal apple growers happy and more prosperous than before. He married a local girl and settled down.

His descendants Smt. Vidya Stokes (politician) and Dr. Vijay Stokes (scientist) are well known. Though Australian apples are increasingly found in the Indian market, it is still the Delicious that rules the roost. Next time you bite into an Indian apple, you are celebrating Indo-American amity!

One wonders, going as far back as the scriptures, what Lord Rama ate. Perhaps it is easier to tell what Lord Rama did not eat.

No potato, no tomato, no cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, corn, tapioca, rajma, nor of course chillies in any form! But then, I could be wrong since the sarva vyapi or the omnipresent might very well have partaken of all these whenever He was in Europe and the Americas.

(Concluded)

D. Balasubramanian


The earliest types of Indian cuisine are partially reflected in the type of food prepared during Hindu religious ceremonies even today, especially in the Sattvic diet which some follow: fruits, nuts, vegetables, lentils and whole grains.  Ironically, this diet forbids garlic, onions, chillies and spices which people typically associate with Indian food. 


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 21:49
Originally posted by jdalton

Originally posted by Paul

Indian explorers brought chilli peppers from India to the Americas in order to use as bait for small flightless birds.

...And then the birds went extinct in 1491 so everybody went back home?

Seriously though, European cooking would also be unrecognizable without American ingredients. Imagine Italy without tomatoes (or noodles) or Ireland and Russia without potatoes! Those who have mentioned having books on ancient Indian cooking, please share specifics! How was Subcontinental cooking the same or different from today?
 
Nothing to be ashamed. The Americas contributed with more than half the vegetables and fruits the world consumes today.
 
As happened in Italy, Russia, China and everywhere in the Old World, the influence of American products in India is nothing strange at all.


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Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 17-Dec-2007 at 22:46

i think many of the spices were already there in India. Yes lots of fruits and vegtables were brought from the americas but interms of ingrediants many were already there.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2007 at 00:12
Originally posted by anum

i think many of the spices were already there in India. Yes lots of fruits and vegtables were brought from the americas but interms of ingrediants many were already there.

 
Certainly. Pepper, cloves, ginger, paprika, garlic, cinnamon, mustard, etc. where all known in India before the discovery of the America. Almost all the ingredients of curry. But Chilly peppers are from the Americas.


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Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2007 at 00:45

^ btw do they eat indian food in south america?



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2007 at 00:54
Where I live (Chile) Chinese is popular and massive, Indian food is exclusive and few people knows it. There aren't many East Indians in here at all. However, I am pretty sure that must be a very important kind of food in the Guyanas, and particularly in Trinidad and Tobaggo, where half the population has ancestry in India.

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Posted By: jdalton
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 00:04
Indian food is not hard to find in North America. And curry is now a staple in China and Japan. But Britain has perhaps adopted Indian cooking more readily than most other parts of the world. I think it's fair to say that when it comes to food, the relationship between India and Britain has been fairly one-sided.

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Posted By: jayeshks
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 00:22
Originally posted by jdalton

Indian food is not hard to find in North America. And curry is now a staple in China and Japan. But Britain has perhaps adopted Indian cooking more readily than most other parts of the world. I think it's fair to say that when it comes to food, the relationship between India and Britain has been fairly one-sided.


Well good Indian food seems to be hard to find in my region of North America even though so many expat Indians live here.  I avoid Indian restaurants like the plague now.  And speaking of world curry domination, once at a party, a girl from Hanover told me that her favourite street food back home was currywurst.  What an idea!LOL


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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 00:57
Originally posted by jdalton

Indian food is not hard to find in North America. And curry is now a staple in China and Japan. But Britain has perhaps adopted Indian cooking more readily than most other parts of the world. I think it's fair to say that when it comes to food, the relationship between India and Britain has been fairly one-sided.
 
 
Though in Britain it should more rightly be called Bangladeshi food as it was Bangladeshi immigrants not Indian who opened the restaurants and sold it to a nation.
 
 


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Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 05:01
Originally posted by jayeshks

Originally posted by jdalton

Indian food is not hard to find in North America. And curry is now a staple in China and Japan. But Britain has perhaps adopted Indian cooking more readily than most other parts of the world. I think it's fair to say that when it comes to food, the relationship between India and Britain has been fairly one-sided.


Well good Indian food seems to be hard to find in my region of North America even though so many expat Indians live here.  I avoid Indian restaurants like the plague now.  And speaking of world curry domination, once at a party, a girl from Hanover told me that her favourite street food back home was currywurst.  What an idea!LOL


How do you differentiate good indian food from bad indian food, personally?


Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 06:00
Ibn Battuta mentions chillies in his writing about India and Africa. I'm afraid thats a bit before Columbus.
If chile did come from the Americas it came a long time before the Europeans.

I think Chile in Europe was introduced post-Columbus


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Posted By: jayeshks
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 17:28
Originally posted by maqsad


How do you differentiate good indian food from bad indian food, personally?


Usually for me, I like it = it is good.  But more rationally, it's food that's been prepared well and thoughtfully, like home cooking.  90% of the Indian restaurants here serve the same dreck: Buffet with day old pulau, bland and greasy butter chicken, roganjosh or some other lamb/goat dish, overcooked matar paneer or palak paneer, dry tandoori chicken and nan.  That's it.  Takeout places specialize in oily channa bhattura and samosas.  You get tired of eating the same bland crap after a while.  Most of these dishes cater to Western palates or at least Western conceptions of what Indian food should be and most places put minimal investment in the food and restaurant in order to keep prices cheap and profits high.  Now when we go out to eat Indian it's almost always either South Indian (because they ususally make everything fresh and usually just have higher quality food) or Hakka Indo/Pak Chinese (which still has the novelty of trying something new). 


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Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 18:48

what is difference between north indian and pakistani food?



Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 20:28
Originally posted by jayeshks

And speaking of world curry domination, once at a party, a girl from Hanover told me that her favourite street food back home was currywurst.  What an idea!LOL


actually currywurst used to be THE street food in germany until beign displaced by Kebab.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 19-Dec-2007 at 21:49
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim

Ibn Battuta mentions chillies in his writing about India and Africa. I'm afraid thats a bit before Columbus.
If chile did come from the Americas it came a long time before the Europeans.

I think Chile in Europe was introduced post-Columbus
 
Be careful with ancient citations of books. Remember that the word "corn" was used in Europe in Roman times, but maize was only introduced in the old world after contact.
 
You can't make a case claimming Battuta knew "pepper" and think he was mentioning "chilli pepper"....
 
In fact, Spaniards of colonial times called "lambs of the ground" to llamas , and both know a llama has nothing to do with a lambLOL
 


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Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 01:28
I understand that Pinguin. Certainly the corn case wasn't maize at all.

The modern dietry evidence points away from a 16th century european introduction as well.

If I understand correctly, the biggest Chile eating areas are central america, not brazil. Spanish colonies not Portugese. Spanish however had very little contact with the Indian ocean. So the Portugese would have had to buy the chile from the spanish who grew/bought it in America. The portugese then have the ability to trade this with the chile eating regions on the east african coast, and their primary trade partner in India Vijayanagar.

We currently have:
Americas - Spanish - Portugese - Vijayanagar

Now if we just look at this, Vijayanagar must have bought a huge amount of chile. In order for that much penetration into South India and East africa the trade in chile must have been similar to the trade in Tea.
Where is the evidence of this trade? Spices out of Europe into india? Why did the Spanish give the Portugese who gave Vijayanagar the lucrative chile bush? The Dutch traded Manhattan to get an Indonesian island with saffron (I think a spice anyway). Vijayanagar was rich, it would have been a lucrative trade.
Where is the Great Chile Market of Goa?

Now lets look a bit further, Sichuan, North India, Thailand, and Mali are all big chile eaters. How did they acquire the chile taste? Its hard enough to believe that North India aquired it from south India. How exactly did Sichuan get the taste?
Mali aquiring it from Somalia? Its a tough ask to say Ethiopia aquired it from Somalia.

If the export of Chile was so high on Spanish and Portugese agendas why doesn't the Phillipines eat chille?

Quite frankly although some types of chile certainly originated in America, some did not.


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Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 01:35
this answers at least one of your questions.
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand - http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand


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Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 02:07
Do birds migrate east and west over the pacific or atlantic or is it always a north-south direction? Birds *with* wings that is..


Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 02:40
Originally posted by Paul

this answers at least one of your questions.
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand - http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand

Chile missionaries LOL

Portugese missionaries introducing Chile to Thailand, although possible, still sounds a bit far fetched given Christian penetration into Thailand wasn't successful.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 02:51

I just would like to make something clear. The name of the pepper is Chilli in English and not Chile. Chile is the name of my country, which means cold in Quechua and Aymara, or cool if you wish Wink

Now, in the languages of the Andes, the name is "aji" and not "chilli" which is a Mexican word.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 02:59
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim

I understand that Pinguin. Certainly the corn case wasn't maize at all.

The modern dietry evidence points away from a 16th century european introduction as well.

....
We currently have:
Americas - Spanish - Portugese - Vijayanagar

Now if we just look at this, Vijayanagar must have bought a huge amount of chile. In order for that much penetration into South India and East africa the trade in chile must have been similar to the trade in Tea.
Where is the evidence of this trade?
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If the export of Chile was so high on Spanish and Portugese agendas why doesn't the Phillipines eat chille?

Quite frankly although some types of chile certainly originated in America, some did not.
 
The evidence? See the quote above:
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand - http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand
 
You don't need to establish a trade when you can transpant a plant.
 
Now, the Spaniards were present in Asia in Phillipines.
 
Finally, who said everyone that knew Chillies use them for everything?
In the Americas ONLY MEXICANS put Chilly in all theirs foods. The rest just use it once in a while. In Asia only some people use Chillies and other don't like that much. Why? It is just a matter of tastes, I guess.
 
 


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Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 03:14
all this food talk is making me hungry


Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 03:51
Originally posted by maqsad

Do birds migrate east and west over the pacific or atlantic or is it always a north-south direction? Birds *with* wings that is..
 
Are you saying, peppers migrate?


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Posted By: Omar al Hashim
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 04:20
Originally posted by pinguin

I just would like to make something clear. The name of the pepper is Chilli in English and not Chile. Chile is the name of my country, which means cold in Quechua and Aymara, or cool if you wish Wink

Now, in the languages of the Andes, the name is "aji" and not "chilli" which is a Mexican word.

Oops. Well I don't see many Chilians transplanted into india either Wink

I call it Mirch

The evidence? See the quote above:
 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand - http://www.scribd.com/doc/9127/The-History-of-Thai-Food?query2=History+Of+the+chilli+in+Thailand
 
You don't need to establish a trade when you can transpant a plant.
 
Now, the Spaniards were present in Asia in Phillipines.
 
Finally, who said everyone that knew Chillies use them for everything?
In the Americas ONLY MEXICANS put Chilly in all theirs foods. The rest just use it once in a while. In Asia only some people use Chillies and other don't like that much. Why? It is just a matter of tastes, I guess.

Why would the people want the plant? Even if we accept the missionary version as true (I don't trust that site as 100% reliable) that still doesn't help for most of the chilli eating regions of the world.

Without question there are chilli varieties (eh Hallipenyo (sp?)) native to central america (I think you'll find that Guatamalans & Hondurians (?) are pretty keen on chilli too), it is quite possible that these varieties were introduced by the portugese to the rest of the world. But certainly there are also varieties that are not native to the americas, or travelled across long before 1500.


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Posted By: maqsad
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2007 at 07:07
Originally posted by Paul

Originally posted by maqsad

Do birds migrate east and west over the pacific or atlantic or is it always a north-south direction? Birds *with* wings that is..
 
Are you saying, peppers migrate?


Couldn't they? With the help of birds?


Posted By: jdalton
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2007 at 22:55
Originally posted by Paul

Though in Britain it should more rightly be called Bangladeshi food as it was Bangladeshi immigrants not Indian who opened the restaurants and sold it to a nation.

Good point! I should know this, as I used to live in walking distance of Brick Lane a.k.a.  Banglatown.


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Posted By: anum
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2007 at 05:13
Indian food has to be one of the most diverse in the world. There are so many dishes from so many different parts of india and the subcontinent.


Posted By: jdalton
Date Posted: 27-Dec-2007 at 04:26
Originally posted by anum

Indian food has to be one of the most diverse in the world. There are so many dishes from so many different parts of india and the subcontinent.

I'm pretty sure that if we organized history by the quality and variety of the cuisine rather than by what type of weapons people made, places like Britain and Russia and Germany would not end up as the examples of the peak of civilization.


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Posted By: balochii
Date Posted: 18-Dec-2010 at 11:32
Originally posted by anum

I have always wondered what was Indian food like before the Mughals? Does any one know what indians use to eat before the muslims came? Majority of the Indian dishes today have been influenced by afghan or persian dishes through the mughals.
 
yeah much of today's indian cuisine is a mughal invention, espeically north indian cuisine which people enjoy here in the west, i am not sure what north indian hindus ate before, i guess they were vegetarians, but today all of them eat meatLOL


Posted By: yaudheya
Date Posted: 18-Jan-2011 at 02:51
Arthshasta of  Kautilya , Mansollas of  Someshwar[ chalukya king ] and Prathwiraj raso provide a large number of Indian dishes and food habbit of Indian peoples.


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Posted By: MillerA
Date Posted: 08-Feb-2011 at 23:50
Did Thai food gain some of it's recipes from an Indian influence? Some of the curries have a similar taste although Indian seems more spicy.

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