Prostration in Prayer
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Topic: Prostration in Prayer
Posted By: Killabee
Subject: Prostration in Prayer
Date Posted: 04-Dec-2007 at 20:09
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I read that Ancient Jews and Christians in Jesus time prostrated during the Prayer just like the Muslim do (Sujud in Arabic). However, it fell out of favor among the Jews during the middle ages while it is still preserved in muslim tradition.
Here is the illustration of how the ancient Jews pray in the prayer from the book "To Pray as a Jew" by Rabbi Hayim Halevy Donin:
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In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism - Judaism , the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud - Talmudic texts as well as writings of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaonim - Gaonim and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishonim - Rishonim indicate that prostration was common among many Jewish communities until some point during the Middle Ages. Members of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite - Karaite denomination practice full prostrations during prayers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi - Ashkenazi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Jews - Orthodox Jews prostrate during http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_Hashana - Rosh Hashana and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur - Yom Kippur as did http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Jews - Yemenite Jews during the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachanun - Tachanun part of regular daily Jewish prayer until somewhat recently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Jews - Ethiopian Jews traditionally prostrated during a holiday specific to their community known as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigd - Sigd . Sigd comes from a root word meaning prostration in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amharic - Amharic , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic - Aramaic , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic - Arabic . There is a move among Talmide haRambam to revive prostration as a regular part of daily Jewish worship.
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Posted By: Akolouthos
Date Posted: 04-Dec-2007 at 20:55
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Prostration is very much a part of prayer and veneration in the Orthodox Church, as well.
-Akolouthos
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Posted By: Killabee
Date Posted: 04-Dec-2007 at 21:47
| Really? Do they all prostrate at once just like the muslim or only the leader in the prayer such as the clergyman prostrate? |
Posted By: Akolouthos
Date Posted: 04-Dec-2007 at 21:57
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Well, it depends. During Great Lent, for instance, everyone prostrates at the same times when reciting the prayer of Saint Ephraim. There are also other times when either a full prostration or a "small" prostration (touching the hand to the ground in a deep bow) may be made during liturgical services. Prostration also takes place when venerating icons.
-Akolouthos
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Posted By: Killabee
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2007 at 01:12
| Do you have the link of the vid from youtube or flurl that shows everyone prostrates at the same times when reciting the prayer of Saint Ephraim? Not that I dont believe you, but I just want to see the scene and compare to the muslim sujud. |
Posted By: Killabee
Date Posted: 05-Dec-2007 at 01:14
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Here is an illustration I found in wikipedia that depicts how the Eastern Christianity prostrate during prayer (Zemnoy poklon).
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