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Topic: AFC Asian Cup 2007??
Posted By: Balain d Ibelin
Subject: AFC Asian Cup 2007??
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 01:47
Opinins on it..
 
Predictions....
 
Evaluations....
 
Reviews....
 
 
ETC..Etc..


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Posted By: Knights
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 03:16
I suppose I should say that Australia will win...though I believe they lost to Iraq recently. My friend is in the Australian and Chinese advertisements for the Asian Cup actually...

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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 03:55
South-Korea will make it, they have the best fans...


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Posted By: Gharanai
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 10:52
Any good link to AFC website, if so please add it.


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Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 12:44
I think it will be between japan, Korea, australia and Iran. I think....

the Uzbeks won with  3-0 against China so there the underdog... Mabey just mabey Tongue


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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 13:50
Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

South-Korea will make it, they have the best fans...
 
Unfortunately for SK, having the best fans doesn't really count for much, but even if it did, Iran would still win.
 


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 13:57
Bah soccer... so many dives. Australia lost a player over something which was so obviously faked a half-blind, drunk, mentally imbalanced, swollen-nosed gold-fish could have told you so! Meh.

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Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 13:57
Originally posted by Gharanai

Any good link to AFC website, if so please add it.
AFC official website
http://www.the-afc.com/english/index.asp - http://www.the-afc.com/english/index.asp
Asian Cup website
http://www.afcasiancup.com/en/#scores - http://www.afcasiancup.com/en/#scores
 
 
Australia is gone. Japan can make it to final. If Iran wins tomorrow game agianst Korea it will be in final for sure.


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Posted By: The Hidden Face
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 22:12
I wonder what would happen If Turkey joined this organization instead of European one. I think Turkey would easily win this cup. What do you think?


Posted By: Bulldog
Date Posted: 21-Jul-2007 at 22:23

I'd love for either Iran or Ozbekistan to win!

 
 


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Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 02:42
Originally posted by The Hidden Face

I wonder what would happen If Turkey joined this organization instead of European one. I think Turkey would easily win this cup. What do you think?
Turkey is a tough team, but you can not predict any thing in Football. All Traditional Asian powers ( Japan, Iran, South Korea and Saudi Arabia) beside Australia and Iraq can be a big challenge for Turkey.

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Posted By: Balain d Ibelin
Date Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 02:57

My prediction:

Semi Finals......

Iran (Prediction) v Iraq 3-1

Japan v Saudi Arabia (Prediction) 0-2

3rd Place:

Iraq v Japan 1-1 (PSO: 2-4)
 
Fianls:

Iran v Saudi Arabia 2-2 (PSO:5-3)

Iran wins cup.

About Turkey... Hum... Let's predict... Turkey had many experienced, Senior players like the retired Rustu Recber, but they're a bit hard to seek young, fresh players.

Btw, next Cup Australia will won.
 
My Favs are Iran and Australia.. I don't like East Asian powers except Korea.


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Posted By: Zagros
Date Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 06:11
Iran youth team beat Turkey last year.  The biggest problem of Asian teams is that they show too much respect and fear for European teams, but when Iran plays Turkey it does not see it as a European team like Germany, Italy etc.

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Posted By: galvatron
Date Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 06:37
Turkey have beat Kazakhstan 6-0 aways in world cup qualify rounds 2006 when Kazakh are in Afc asian giant team are strungge to beat them .even Iran only manage to beat Azerbaijan 2-1 and draw 1-1 at home in 2002,even Israel may win Asian cup easily  ,i can say they will win easly .i think too it will be South Korea -Japan final if Korea manage to beat Saudi today .


Posted By: The Hidden Face
Date Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 08:00
Originally posted by Zagros

Iran youth team beat Turkey last year.  The biggest problem of Asian teams is that they show too much respect and fear for European teams, but when Iran plays Turkey it does not see it as a European team like Germany, Italy etc.


I didn't mean to say that Turkey would be unbeatable. Of course, Iran -and all other major Asian powers- could beat Turkey. However I believe Turkey would dominate this cup very easily. Turkey is much better than any asian team in terms of everything.

As for Turkey being not seen as a European team like Germany or Italy. Germany and Italy are not just a European team but also football schools. They are football giants. So probably nobody would consider Turkey to be like Germany or Italy -even though Turkey beat Germany last year- Big%20smile.

Anyway, I think that Turkey could pretty much play "european class" Smile game against Iran, If you mean that.


Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 09:23
Iran lost to South Korea at penalties.Unhappy

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Posted By: Gharanai
Date Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 15:28
Bad to hear that Iran lost.
Oh anyway thanks alot for the sites you gave dear sirius99


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 15:23
Originally posted by Zagros

Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

South-Korea will make it, they have the best fans...
 
 
Unfortunately for SK, having the best fans doesn't really count for much, but even if it did, Iran would still win.
 
 
 
Zagros, a great football-expert !!!


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Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 18:56
Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

Originally posted by Zagros

Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

South-Korea will make it, they have the best fans...
 
 
Unfortunately for SK, having the best fans doesn't really count for much, but even if it did, Iran would still win.
 
 
 
Zagros, a great football-expert !!!
 
Let's hear from our Icelandic Expert!Smile
 
What do you predict ? Whose team gonna win the cup?
 


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Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 18:58
Originally posted by Gharanai

Bad to hear that Iran lost.
Oh anyway thanks alot for the sites you gave dear sirius99
No problem my friend!

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Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 24-Jul-2007 at 09:53
Originally posted by sirius99

Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

Originally posted by Zagros

Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

South-Korea will make it, they have the best fans...
 
 
Unfortunately for SK, having the best fans doesn't really count for much, but even if it did, Iran would still win.
 
 
 
Zagros, a great football-expert !!!
 
Let's hear from our Icelandic Expert!Smile
 
What do you predict ? Whose team gonna win the cup?
 

SK does have the best fans but they did not bring A team to this tourney.  Ji Sung Park(ManU), Young Pyo Lee(Tottenham), Ki Hyeon Seol(Reading) are not on this roster.  SK usually sees Asian Cup as a test for their lesser known younger K-League players.  If this was the WC qualifier, they would be in top two since they made last six WCs.  However they would appreciate the expert enthusiasm from Ulrich!Clap


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Posted By: ulrich von hutten
Date Posted: 24-Jul-2007 at 11:55

japan will face korea in the final, where south-korea will win the championship.



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Posted By: I/eye
Date Posted: 24-Jul-2007 at 14:57
Originally posted by The Hidden Face

I wonder what would happen If Turkey joined this organization instead of European one. I think Turkey would easily win this cup. What do you think?
 
If Turkish national team and its clubs joined Asia, its quality will drop over the next few years Tongue
 
 
Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

SK does have the best fans but they did not bring A team to this tourney.  Ji Sung Park(ManU), Young Pyo Lee(Tottenham), Ki Hyeon Seol(Reading) are not on this roster. 
 
don't forget Kim Nam Il the captain.
 
but SK's performance in this Asian Cup has been awful even if you took all that into account


Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 25-Jul-2007 at 13:39
Iraq an Saudi Arabia go to final Big%20smile.


Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 26-Jul-2007 at 08:37
 Great accomplishment for Iraqi national team,if you compare between what they got and what they giving,you will see an impressive thing.
no training inside Iraq,no stadiums, no league, the are not seeing their families and their  nation wracked by sectarian violence.
but the happiness is a dream in my country,two suicide car attacks the people during their celebration.
killed 50, wounded 120, peace be upon them and may God be with their families and the quick recovering for the wounding.


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Posted By: Frederick Roger
Date Posted: 26-Jul-2007 at 09:54
Clap
 
Congratulations to Iraq, they really deserve it, and will be rooting for them in the Final (as always, I had been supporting Japan)...


Posted By: Suren
Date Posted: 26-Jul-2007 at 18:53
yup Go Iraq kick the Saudis' Ass!Wink You deserve better. Iraq is a good team, I always like the way they play, something similar to Iranian style. We know who play football and who use tricks and politic in west asia. Iraqi football players always play great, even under sadam pressure they played awsome. I have heard stories about how bathi Regime tortuned their players after every game lost.
 
@ Ahmad: I hope happiness come to your country after winning the cup.


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 27-Jul-2007 at 09:52
Congrats for Iraqi team!Clap
I remember they had great showing in 2004 Olympics, too.  It is just a football tournament but when a team like that gives an war torn nation something to celebrate and be proud of, it becomes more than a sports achievement.  Too bad so many people got killed and injured in celebration but that reflects more on the general condition of an war torn nation than the tendency of people who were celebrating.  Can you imagine if Liverpool fans were armed with Aks and celebrating?  More people died of car bombs targeted to them than stray bullets anyway.

Though S.Korea didn't bring their best players, I hope they realize that not every Dutch coach is Guus Hiddink.


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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 27-Jul-2007 at 11:09
Go Iraq! kick some butt

i didn't even mind when they beat us Aussies, seriously i didn't!Big%20smile


Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 27-Jul-2007 at 15:31
Thanks fellows for your supporting.
you are right Suren the torture used against the players after any lost.
 
 


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Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2007 at 15:27
 Extraordinary achievement, Iraqi national team did it even though all difficulties.
masses celebrated in streets and shouted( we secure hestoric triumph) and (bring the ace).
no accedints thank God.


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Posted By: malizai_
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2007 at 17:09
Best in Asia--Iraq!!
 
I believe it will make a lot of Iraqis feel iraqi again, rather than a sunni, shiite, kurd or turk. That can only be a good thing.
 
Really happy for you Ahmed.


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Posted By: Leonidas
Date Posted: 29-Jul-2007 at 19:28
IRAQ!!
Smile
 
 
Iraqs%20captain%20Younis%20Mahmoud%20%28left%29%20celebrates%20with%20team-mates%20after%20scoring%20a%20goal%20against%20Saudi%20Arabia%20during%20the%20final%20match%20of%20the%20Asian%20Football%20Cup%202007%20
 
 
 


Posted By: King Kang of Mu
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2007 at 10:41
Congrats again for Iraqis!

I just saw a few articles about Verbeek resigning as SK coach and SK is talking to Iraqi coach Viera for the job.  I'm thinking someone from Hyundai group saw my comment about not every Dutch Coach being Guus Hiddink.  Many SK palyers are sad to see Verbeek go because he's been a big part of developing SK football since the days of Hiddink's assistant.  He was also Advocat's assistant.  As much as he should be credited with being a part of Hiddink's success, he also should be credited for being a part of Advocat's failure.
Until SK can develop a strong center forward their strength is teamwork and work rate of their midfield, and Hiddink played to that strength.  Advocat and Verbeek tried more traditional 4-4-2 and all that did was weakened midfield and more opportunistic long crosses.  That might be fine for a Scottish club like Rangers, but not for short, speedy, hard workers like Park Ji Sung, Seol Ki Hyeon, Ahn Jung Hwan, Yuong Pyo Lee, Chun Soo Lee, etc.  Of course, I would love to see Hiddink again on that job but that's not gonna happen.  Other than Hiddink , I would like to see an Argentinian coach like Jose Peckerman.  I've always admired short passing midfield game of Argentinians and that is how the speed and organization of SK football can shine.  SK's best footballers are in EPL, and many Koreans are getting used to watching English style football.  I just don't think Sk football is suited for that style.

I've heard Viera is a Brasilian.  As many of you realize already, I'm a big supporter of Brasilian football, but it is hard to play in Brasilian style without Brasilian skills, Zico proved that with Japan.  But it will a great learning experience for Koreans if Viera gets the job.       



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Posted By: Majkes
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2007 at 16:08
Congratulations to Iraq. What a suprise Clap


Posted By: omshanti
Date Posted: 01-Aug-2007 at 22:01
Congratulations to Iraq! This is such a big achievement, greater then Brasil Germany or Italy winning the World cup. I am so happy for them.


Posted By: Balain d Ibelin
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2007 at 05:15
Congrats IRAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEY PLAYER TO SUCCESS: Younis Khalef Mahmoud, Nassat Akram, Hawar Mulla Mohammed, Noor Sabri
 
And also one key to success: COACH- JORVAN VIEIRA!!
 
Anyway, Good For IRAQI People, (Sorry) Americans should be ashamed of this!! US had torned Iraq, but that doesn't meant football there is dead!!!
 
Anyway I'm happy at least Middle-Eastern Country Wins. Sadly Iran lose.. They're my favs.


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Posted By: Balain d Ibelin
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2007 at 05:19
Anyway.. I'm happy about the atmosphere and fulness od seats and unanarchism at the Final here in Jakarta. Usually when a team loses their fans here will became "Bulls of the Running of the Bulls", and sometimes if the teams weren't favs, the Stadium will be as empty as a scary house.

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Posted By: Balain d Ibelin
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2007 at 05:21
Anyway, my neighbours were sad -- They're mostly are having Arab-Indonesia blood or pure Saudi ArabsCryLOL

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