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Topic: The Kshatriya Mers
Posted By: Guests
Subject: The Kshatriya Mers
Date Posted: 26-Jun-2007 at 16:25

Dear All,

On a number of occasions the famous tribe of Mers (also known as Mhers/Mihirs/Mahers/Mairs) has been mentioned in different topics. I myself belong to the Mers of Kathiwar and therefore would like to take this opportunity to both further and also share my knowledge about the great Kshatriya tribe known as the Mers

After having a read through the interesting posts made on the Mers by members like Azat, ashokharsana, kshtriya-Mer & AP Singh my hope is that they actively keep contributing.

The most accepted & also respected theory with regards to the ancestral history suggests that the Mers are of Mede origin this based both upon current geographical locations of the Mers in India & also the historical events that have taken place supports above theory.

The Mers – The Meds

That the Mers of the Aravali Mountains and Kathiwar are de­scendants of the same family is also not beyond the bounds of pro­bability. The native pronunciation, especially in the western and north-western provinces of Hindustan, tends so much to an inter­mixture of the cerebral letters r and d,—the written character, indeed, being the same in both, and the diacritical marks being a mere modern innovation—that Mer and Med may be identical: and the addition of the aspirate, which sometimes makes the former into Mher, or, as we commonly write it Mhair, offers still no argument against identity, for that also is an optional excrescence, especially in the names of peoples and families. For the same reason, the connection of the Mahr of Ubaro, and other tracts in the Upper Sind, where they are reckoned by their neighbours as the aboriginal inhabitants of the country between Bhakkar and BahawalpUr, is equally plausible.

Tod pronounces the Mers to be of Bhatti origin, and derives their name from Meru, “a mountain.” But at the same time that he pro­nounces them to be Bhattis, he says they are a branch of the Mina, or Maina, one of the aboriginal races of India. These statements are obviously incompatible, and the Bhatti hypothesis must be rejected. During the whole period of their known history, they have been conspicuous for their lawless and predatory habits, from the time when four thousand Mer archers defended their passes against Pirthi-Raj, down to A.D. 1821, when their excesses compelled the British government to attack them in their fastnesses, and reduce them to complete obedience. Since which period, it is gratifying to observe that they have emerged from their barbarism, and, under the judicious management of European officers, have learnt to cultivate the arts of peace, and set a notable example of industry to the sur­rounding tribes.

Taking into consideration, therefore, the fact that the Mers of the Aravali are but little advanced beyond the tract where the Meds are known, a thousand years ago, to have formed a numerous and thriving population; that their brethren, the Minas, can themselves be traced in their original seats to the banks of the Indus; that Kathiwar, or the Saurashtran peninsula, was the very nursery of the piractical expeditions for which the Meds were about the same period celeberated and feared, and where Mers still reside, we may conclude that to declare them identical, is doing no great force to reason and probability. “The name of Mer, or Mand, is still found in many parts of the Punjab, as in Meror of the Bari and Rechna Doabs, in Mera, Mandra, and Mandanpur of the Sind Sagar Doab, and in Mandali, of Multan. Mera, which is ten miles to the west of Kalar Kahar, is certainly as old as the beginning of the Christian era, as it possesses an Arian Pali inscription, fixed in the side of a square well. The Mers would seem also to have occupied Lahore, as AbU Rihan states that the capital of Lohawar was named Medhukur or Mandhukur. This place is said to have been on the east bank of the Ravi, and, if so, it was most probably Lahore itself, under a new name. There is an old place called Mandhyawala, on the west bank of the Ravi, and only twelve miles to the south-west of Lahore, which may possibly be the Mandhukur of Abu Rihan. But the old mound of Mirathira, in the Gugera district, in which figures of Buddha and moulded bricks have been discovered by the railway cuttings, is a more likely place. This frequent occurrence of the name in so many parts of the Panjab, and always attached to old places, as in Mera, Mandra, and Meriali, of the Sindh Sagar Doab, and in Med-hukur or Mandhukur, the capital of Lohawar, offers the strongest confirmation of the conclusion which I have already derived from the notices of the classical authors, that the Meds or Mers were once the dominant race in the Panjab. The special location of the Medi on the Hydaspes by classical writers of the first century of the Christian era, the evident antiquity of Mera, Meriali, and other places which still bear the name, and the admitted foreign origin of their modern representatives, the Mers, all point to the same conclusion, that the Medi, or Meds, were the first Indo-Scythian conquerors of the Panjab.”

Pictures showing the Mer tribes mainly based in western Rajasthan.

 Mer (tribal) villages were divided into two categories: those which "accepted authority" (i.e, whose residents paid taxes); and those which did not. Finally, the independent tribal Mers, beyond the authority of the Rajas, paid their revenues to no one.

Posted By: AP Singh
Date Posted: 27-Jun-2007 at 08:51
Mewar ( Merwar or Medpat ) is named after the valiant tribe of Mers.
That is also true that when some of these valiant tribes lost kingdoms, they moved to hilly areas which were not easily accessible to the new rulers. They also used to look for opportunity to attack the new rulers and move again to safer areas in the hills. 
They never paid taxes to the new regimes.
There is a possibility that these valiant tribes of Mers and Jats moved to Sindh areas along with the armies of Gurjar Pratihar Samrat Naga Bhatta I in 6th. century to protect the frontiers.

Posted By: AP Singh
Date Posted: 30-Jun-2007 at 01:28
Dear @LordMer@,
I am sure that the valiant Mers and Jats share the glorious History of Gujjars and were part of this Gujjar army which was placed by Gurjar Samrat Nagabhatta the Great and later by Gurjar Samrat Mihir Bhoja Mahan at the north front of the Empire stop the expansion of Abbasid Cliphate Empire towards India.
The movement of this army took place from Malwa and Mewar region where these tribes are found in millions even toady. Presently these Gujjars who were part of that army are settled in places as far as in Russia but speak the same language Gojari which is similar to the language spoken in present day Malwa and Mewar. That shows that Gujjars, Mers, and Jats are the original Khastriyas of India and not outsiders as written by British Historians.
During the reign of Gurjar Samrat Mihir Bhoja Mahan the army size was eighy Lakhs. The Complete present day India, Pakistan,Bangladesh,Part of afghanistan was in his control.
Note: I would like pay my sincere gratitude to Basileus since this information is taken from a website posted by him.

I'll later provide a map for AD 850 Europe


Southern Europe:
The Idrisids conquer Naples, then fiercely sack Rome itself. St.Peter’s is set ablaze and Pope Sergius II is martyred on the spot, then Guido I of Spoleto with a crack force chases away the Arabs. All of southern Italy is now in Muslim hands


Southern Europe:
The new Pope Leo IV the Great and Louis, Lothar’s son and king of Italy, fortify Rome against further Muslim aggression, Louis turns them on the Idrisids retaking from them vast swathes of southern Italy, but is unable to retake the coastal cities, lacking a fleet on par with the Muslim one

British Isles:
Kenneth mac Alpin, king of Dalriada, tries to eliminate the Pictish royal family but is killed by Drust IX MacFergach of the MacFergus dynasty of Alba, which now comes to rule also the Scots; from now on Dalriada/Scotland and Alba will remain two distinct kingdoms in personal union under a single king.

Western Europe:
The Vikings sack Bordeaux, which gives herself from Aquitaine to Charles III the Bald’s Western Francia for protection


Middle East:
The Abbasid Caliph al-Mutawakkil quits the Mihna (a sort of Islamic inquisition) and leaves the intepretation of the Q’uran to the Sunni Council of the Ulema, who proceed to elect a Wali, or supreme guardian of the faith; in time this figure will gain the prestige of a Sunni Islamic Pope. Meantime the Shiites are still persecuted and non-Muslims suffer strong discrimination.

British Isles:
The Irish defeat the Vikings at Cork, freeing the town.

Central Asia:
Balkh (northern Afghanistan) gains independence under the Bani Juris


Southern Europe:
A second Idrisid assault against Rome is routed at the battle of Ostia by Louis II, who is afterwards anointed as coemperor of his father Lothar by Pope Leo IV.

Central Asia:
Kol Bilge Kara Khan founds the Qarluq-Uygur Karakhanid clan in Transoxiana (Central Asia). Pan Tegin/Mangri establishes the Uygur kingdom of Turfan in eastern Turkestan.

Western Europe:
Rurik, son of the duke of the Abodrites (Slavs of northeastern Germany) Godoslav and maternal nephew of duke Gostomysl of Novgorod, but raised among the Danes in Frisia, conquers Dorestad, the capital of Frisia.

Northern Europe:
The Norwegians of Vestfold are ousted from Vendeyssel (the northern “tip” of Jutland)

British Isles:
Cornwall counter-invades Wessex with Viking help, but the Saxons win at Hingston Down

850 ca.

The Gurjara-Pratiharas unify most of northern India under Mihir Bhoja, blocking the expansion of the Abbasid Caliphate and his successor states. Buddhism disappears frm northern India, surviving only east of Bihar and in southern Deccan.

Central-Eastern Europe:
the great župan (prince) Vlastimir of Raška/Kosovo rejects Bulgarian overlordship accepting, instead, that of Byzantium; this starts the Orthodox Christianization of the Sklaviniai (*OTL Balkans). The Slavic Duchy of Triballia emerges between Zahumlje (future Hercegovina) and Raška/Kosovo

Se Asia:
King Pyinbya founds Pagan as capital of his kingdom in central Burma. Buddhism begins to replace Hinduism in the kingdom of Champa (*OTL southern Vietnam).

Byzantine Empire:
The Paulicians, helped by the Arab emitrate of Melitene (*OTL Malatya), break free between Anatolia and Cappadocia under the leadership of Carbeas, rejecting Byzantine authority and building an own State centered at Tephrike (*OTL Divrigi)

Western Europe:
The Danes invade Zeeland, making it a base for their pirate raids

Northern Europe:
The Norwegian kingdom of Vestfold, in its way to national unification, conquers the petty kingdom of Svithjod, a former vassal to Sogn

British Isles:
The Norwegian Vikings conquer the Hebrides

Black Africa:
The kingdom of Bornu is founded north of Lake Chad

Central Hesperia (*OTL America):
The strong Mayan kingdom of Uxmal arises in northern Yucatŕn.

Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 01-Jul-2007 at 12:17

Dear AP Singh,

As previously mentioned in my post & based upon the research I have carried out the word Mer/Mher/Mair/Mhair/Maher/Meher/Mihir/Mahar/Mar all these words refer to same people, the theory is that it varies depending on the region for which this aboriginal tribe is found example Punjab, Madhya Pradesh, Sindh, Rajasthan or Kathiawar (West Saurahtra).

We by now know that the ancestors of the Mers are indeed the great warriors known as the Meds/Mands/Medas/Medes/Mind and the Median Empire was embraced as one of the most powerful kingdoms ever.

The Mers/Meds a Aryan Race (Indo - European)

The word “Aryan” originated in Iran, since the first Persian,Med and Parth tribes moved to the warmer regions, which were located south of Caucasia.

Those tribes (Persians,Meds and Parths) call themselves Aryans and therefore they named the region "ARYANA=Land of Aryans, the country today known as Iran has its name based upon. Because of similarities in language between several languages, historians call people of several nations the so called "Indo-Europeans” or “Aryans".

The Mers/Med settlements
The ancestors of Mers the Meds entered the Indian through the North-west continent (today known as west Punjab) together with Georgians of Georgia around B.C. 126. (Source: Hoskyn, 1922 pp. 22). The Georgians were later known as Gurjars. One specific report indicated that these people entered India through Baluchistan via Iran (Nadvi 1955, p73-75) At this time western India was under the sovereignty of the Guptas. The Kushans were out of the picture long before the Guptas came into power. It seems that the king of the Gupta dynasty in the northwest province drove away the migrant invaders i.e. the Meds and the Gurjars, to the south. The southern region of the Indus valley in the north was governed by the Jats, who flooded the country in the same way some three centuries earlier.

The Jats opposed these foreigners, who eventually overcame them. Thus, the Meds settled to the east of the Indus River, and the Gurjars went further south, It is reported that of the two tribes the Meds lated called Mers or Mahers predominated in power and influence. (Hoskyn, 1922, p. 115-117, and Elliot, Ibid., p. 519.)

So basically the ancestors of the tribe Mers the Meds entered India through the in those days Pujab Sindh region and continued further south into Gujarat leaving settlements in Ajmer (from the great Mer Sardar Ajo), Jesalmer (from the great Mer Sardar Jaslo), Badmer (from the great Mer Sardar Bad), Komalmer (from the great Mer Sardar Komal) & the Marwar region (Mhairwara region belonging to partially to Udaipur and also Jodhpur). They seemed to have settled down in the Kathiwar region and are today to be found in villages around Porbandar known as the Mahers of Kathiawar.


Posted By: AP Singh
Date Posted: 02-Jul-2007 at 02:47
Dear @LordMer@,
I have also heared the from our elders that Gujjars first settled in Punjab and later they were pushed to South by the invasion of Hunas and and not Guptas. There are two clans of Gujjars who left Punjab were Lewas and Kharis. These Gujjars clans were settled in Malwa and Present day Gujarat  and named that area as "Gurjar Desa." During Gupta period there were independeng kingdoms of these Gujjars in Gurjar Desa in the names of their various clans like Chauhans,Parmars,Solankis,Chawara( Chapotkat) etc.
In that case Mers also might be pushed to South by Hunas and not Guptas as mentioned by you.
Later they defeated Hunas were assimilated Hunas among them. Presently Hun a gotra among Gujjars.
See the following historical record taken from Gwalior inscription.

In A.D. 806-7, the indomitable cavalry of Saurashtra under Chalukya Bahukadhavala, supporting Nagabhata's army defeated the army of Karnataka. In the wars of his overlord, he also fought against the Pala kings of Bengal.

Bahukadhavala's father, whose name cannot be deciphered in the inscription, was a feudatory Chalukya ruler of Saurashtra. His grandfather was Kalla. Kalla, therefore, may be accepted as the founder of the Chalukya dynasty in Saurashtra in the middle of the eighth century immediately after the destruction of Valabhi. If this surmise is correct, Kalla would be a contemporary of Nagabhata I.

Chalukya Bahukadhavala continued to rule Saurashtra. His son and successor, Balavarman, was the feudatory of Mihira Bhoja as also of his son, Mahendrapala (A.D. 890-910), and is recorded as achieving great victories. He defeated a certain Vishadha, slew Jajjapa and other kings and "thus freed the earth from the Huna race." He also beat back the Rashtrakuta forces on behalf of his overlord.

Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02-Jul-2007 at 16:56

Dear AP Singh,


I will look into this fact and get back to you; with regards to that it might be a possibility the Huns were the ones that forced the Gurjars & the Mers to emigrate further south.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2007 at 17:50

Dear AP Singh,

The more I research I do into our great Mer (also known as Mihir/Mehar/Mhair/Mair/Mher/Maher) the more I realize that my great ancestors were part of shaping the important boundaries & also took part of battles that were vital at the time.  Like kshtriya-Mer pointed in the topic named “Origins of the great Maitrika Dynasty of Gujarate” the links between the Mihirs (our ancestors) & the Maitraka Dynasty are strong.

My view is based upon two main respected historical scholars firstly A. F.  Rudolf Hoernie & the well known Sir A. Cunningham’s theory as follows:

The emperors of Kanauj were indeed Tomaras & further they were a clan of the Gurjara tribe. There are only two old inscriptions, one is the Pehewa inscription of the time Mahendrapala (c. 885-910 AD), and the second one is the Harsha inscription of the Chohan Vigraharaja, dated 973 A.D which would fall into the reign of Vijaypala (c. 950 – 975). The Tomaras were Gurjars were the Kachhwahas (found as Keshwalas in the Mer community) and the Parihars, they all decend from the Javula King Toramana or rather were clans or divisions of Javula tribe, in which case the Javulas would be Gurjaras.

It has been accepted as an undoubted fact that Toramana was the king of the Hunas (White Huns or Ephthalites).  The Hunas are no doubt mentioned in numerous old Indian inscriptions, but the only Indian evidence connecting the Toramana with the Hunas is the Mandasor inscription of 535 A.D . This inscription, though it does not say so suggests that Mihirakula the son of Toramana whom Yasodharman  defeted was the king or leader of the Hunas. Dr Fleet has suggested that the Maitrakas i.e. the Mihiras (the modern day Mers), were the particular family or clan amon the Hunas to which the Toramana and Mihirkula belonged. Moreover the Mihiras (Mers or Mehars) were “attached from time of immemorial to the Jethwa Rajputs”, who are only the “senior” (Jethwa) or Rajakula (royal clan) of the Mehars.

Above information is really interesting due to still today the Jethwas are to be found within the Mer community and they are indeed known as the Rajshakhas within our community.  Mr Bhandarkar has shown that there is good reason to believe that the Solankis (Chaulunkas), Parihars (Prathiharas), Parmars (Parmars), and Chohans (Chahumanas or Chahuvanas), the four so called Agnikula clans of Rajputs are really or were originally divisions of the Gurjaras. To these the Tomaras may now be added as another Gurjara division and there is still another clan which may also be added to the list, this is the Kachhwahas (Kacchapaghatas).


Firstly and foremost the most respected scolar within our Mer community was Maldev Ranabhai Keshwala respectfully known as Maldev Bapu  who had done extensive research on Mer heritage and history by the help of the Mer Bards (known in Gujarat as Barots) been able to trace our ancestry. In his all india Mer Conferenc (Akhil Baratiya Mer Parishad) speech in February 1955 hes exact words were “Referring to the historical past of the Mers, he said that the historians called them Maitraka, meaning descendants of the son of God. He also stated “Among the Gurjars we were known as Mihir. In fact we all are Rajputs, and are counted as one of the thirty sic clans of the Rajputs.

AP Singh, the most exceptional evidence that many have failed to link us Mers to the Gurjars and to the Huns is to be found within our clans.  You see Mr A. F.  Rudolf Hoernie & Sir A. Cunningham’s theory is as accurate as it can be due to all four Agnikula clans (Parmars, Chauhans, Prathiahars, & Solanki)  are to be found within the Mer community form ancient times. To further to my amazement the Keshwalas/Kuthwahas which has always said to be the asl (initial clan) Mers is to be found within the also as a Gurjar Gotra/Surname/Clan. Further the Jethwas which above scholars also mentioned is to be found within our Mer community, I hardly believe this is a coincidence and my conclusion is based upon all above facts that modern day Mers ancestors were indeed the Mihirs who were of the White Huns are said to claim ancestry from the Kushans which would explain that the Maitrakas are of Kushan origin. The Mers are said to be the generals among the Gurjars.

What are your thoughts on above post, can we conclude that the modern day Mers are one of the divisions to the Gurjars?





Posted By: kshtriya-Mer
Date Posted: 03-Aug-2007 at 19:25

Lord Mer that was a very interesting post. I have also found evidence that the Mers of katyiwar Gujarat were once known as the Matirika rulers of Gujarat I also proived book referances of this in my great maitraka dynasty thred.


Our own barots (ancient records of birth) and from reading other outside referances connecting the Mers with the Maitrakas I fully belive the Mers to be the preventatives of the Maitrakas.


That I think we both can agree on. however now the theory of the Mers being of median origin comes into question.


In my mind here are the possibilities of who the ancestors of the Mers were.


  1. They were the meds or medians who were dominate in sindh. But then later invaded Gujarat with the possible help of gujars, kushans and created a new tribe known as the Maitrakas.


  1. the Mers, Gujjars, Rajputs were once of one older tribe. Mer, Mhir might have been used as a title for this tribe. And this tribe found the Maitraka dynasty the founder bhatraka used the title Mer.



Those are the likely theory’s that are in my mind now, but are open to change.


 From references, the Mer barots, the location and the synopses of the very name Maitraka of mihir/mer I am more of less sure of the mer maitraka conection. However knowing the name, occupation of the Mers before the maitraka period is in my mind open for discussion as one can not to totally sure.




Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 07:16
And AE is not a place to talk about the greatness of your ansestors either.


Posted By: kshtriya-Mer
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 10:00

Hmm is that so Spartan but it seems like a lot of other groups on this foursome have talked about the greatness of their ancestors


One example of this could be the gujjars


For example



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Hi All ,
I am Ashok Harsana, A Gurjar from New Delhi, India.
Gurjars (Sometimes called Gujjars or Gujars) have been The Greatest emperors of South Asia.
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Gurjars were the overlords of Rajputs of India.
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In fact 70% of the toal current Rajput population in North-western India was originated from "Gurjar Stock. Thats why Gurjars and Rajputs share many phyical attributes and surnames like Chauhan, Chawda, Chandel, Bhati, Pundir, Thakur, Parmar, Solanki, Pratihar & Tomar etc
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The word Rajput came into exixtence only after 14th century, As the famous epic by Chand Bardai "PrithviRaj Raso" doesnt speak this name anywhere. PrithviRaj Chauhan a Gujar, was nephew to "Delhi's Gujar Ruler AnangPal Tomar". He also formed an organistaion against Muslim invaders named "Gujjar Mandal"

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The petty Rulers who submitted to Muhammdens in 13th-14th century were awarded with Kingdoms snatched from original rulers. They were never called Kings or Maharajas or Ranas or Rajas they were called Rajputs (It means Son of Kingdom While Son of King is called either Yuvraj or Rajkumar).
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Note: The word "Put" (or Poot) had always been used in negative sence in Indian Literature and history)

Even the places:

Gujrat (india), Gujrat (Pakistan), Gujrawala, GujarKhan(Pakistan), Gujar Chushk (Afghanistan), Gujar garh(Gwalior), Gujarwada(Saharanpur)

were named after these ancient kshatriya clan.
To know more about Gurjars click on the following links:
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Also other rajputs have tried to talk about the greatness of their ancestors too. So why all of a sudden you are trying to pick on the Mer’s ?


Spartan all I and lord mer did was ask some schollers or people with maybe a realated history to the Mers to answer sone questions above. Also I thought this was a history forum? And am I not asking a historical question regarding the Mers? Spartan mate it seems you are suffering from an Inferiority complex mate.


And next time pleas do not put a biased, unprofessional, and down right smutty post on my thread.





Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 10:21

And those threads have been warned, locked and deleted as well. If you had read them closely. By all means discuss history; from all angels, that is what we are here for. But, this place is not an advertisment for everyones ansestors. That would be nationalism and against the code of conduct.

As for my modship, well you are of course free to complain to the admins on that issue.

Enjoy your stay, and continue posting.





Posted By: kshtriya-Mer
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 11:26

Ok Spartan nationalism apart lolzz, I just wanted to find out that maybe the modern days mers ancestors the meds were able to expand into Gujarat to start the maitraka dynasty seeing that numerous sources have connected the maitrakas with the Mers of katyiwar by name and also by scriptures.


Or maybe one of lord mers theory’s is correct the Mers are of Kushan decent.


Right now it seems to me that the links connecting the Mer tribe in general to the medes is very strong. And the link connecting the Mers of kathiwar to the maitrikas is strong to so in my opinion the likely explaination is at one point in history the meds/Medes of sindh conquered Gujarat with maybe some clans of gujjars/kushans to start a dynasty that gave origin to some new rajput clans is well.


I am just trying to reach a definite conclusion on s historical topic







Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 12:30
Well there is an anthropology forum, you could well go there.
In fact that is what I think I'll do. This is a history place.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09-Aug-2007 at 14:05

Dear Sparten,

I am 100% certain that the rules of the All Empires forum is being respected by in every way possible in the post I have made on the topic However if the word “great” is something that is in any way implying either nationalism then let me just remove the word itself, but please keep this topic on this are because this topic in my eyes is more appropriate where it is!

The word know has been deleted & if possible please keep this topic here and not link it anywhere else, due to it being of important for future research into our ancestors heritage.




Posted By: merakshtriya
Date Posted: 14-Dec-2015 at 12:31
hi, i'm from south india. i don't know much about mera kshatriya... can you please send me more details?

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