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Topic: Could Tari-khana be a pagan Turkish templ
Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Subject: Could Tari-khana be a pagan Turkish templ
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2005 at 01:04

Tari-Khana: http://www.itto.org/attraction/attraction.asp?status=showattraction&attractid=Ta92&prv=smn - http://www.itto.org/attraction/attraction.asp?status=showatt raction&attractid=Ta92&prv=smn

As I said here: http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1681&PN=1 - The oldest mosques , Tari-Khana is the oldest mosque in Iran, it was in fact an ancient Sassanid fire temple that about three hundreds years after Islam was changed to a mosque, but is it possible that it was also used as a temple by Turkish invaders? especillay because Tari-Khana is a Turkish term which means "the house of God".

 



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Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 09-Jan-2005 at 12:43

but is it possible that it was also used as a temple by Turkish invaders?

I don't think so because the Turkic peoples didn't have temples for worship (but the Gök Türk people had some sacred caves in Central Mongolia).

especillay because Tari-Khana is a Turkish term which means "the house of God".

Is it?  



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Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 09-Jan-2005 at 15:33
Wait, your's must be Teñri.

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Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 03:22

ihsan

 

is the picture in your signeture a Tomb?

 



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Posted By: Alparslan
Date Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 05:26

 

It is a nomad tent...........



Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 05:54
Is/Was Tari-Khana or Tenri-Khana just Turkish word for Mosque?

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Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 06:01

i think Khana means room  in Turkish, persian and Urdo.

 

 



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Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 10-Jan-2005 at 10:12
Originally posted by Alparslan

 

It is a nomad tent...........

it looks like there is a tomb inside it



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Posted By: Alparslan
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2005 at 00:16

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

Is/Was Tari-Khana or Tenri-Khana just Turkish word for Mosque?

What does it mean tari in Persian? If there is not any meaning  so it could be thought that there may be a relation between Tari and Tengri or Tanri as we called today God in Turksih.

This is really interesting!!!!!!

 

 



Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 06:01

Azimuth, that's a nomadic tent as Alparslan said (with many Turko-Russo-Mongol names like Yurt, Ger, Eb, Öy, etc).

Cyrus, there are no Turkish words for Mosque. We say "Câmi" to larger mosques and "Mescîd" to smaller ones (though actually in Arabic, Masjîd and Jâmi are used for the same type of building).

Such an expression like "Tanrý Evi" or "Teñri Ebi" (House of God) doesn't exist in Turkic, at least AFAIK.



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Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 10:14
As you know Damghan or as the Greeks called it Hecatompylos (a city with one hundred gates) was once the capital of the Parthian empire, I'm not sure but is possible that "Tari" in Parthian language means "God", http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/p250.htm - this website says that name of the Parthian king Gotarzes (Kuw-tari) means "god of the state." it also says that the name of Vonones was Tutuk-tari but the interesting thing is that it suggests to read: http://www.lostlanguages.com/parthian.htm - http://www.lostlanguages.com/parthian.htm for name of the Parthian king, with the correct Turkish reading and it's meaning!!

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Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 13:17

Teñri seems to be a common Altaic word. I suppose Turko-Mongolic Tanrý/Teñri/Teñggri/Teñgeri/Teñger, Sumerian Dingir, Chinese Tiā, Japanese Tennō, Korean Dangun and Etruscan Tinis/Tins are related, eventhough they have different meanings. In Japanese and Korean, they are legendary founders of those nations, in Etruscan it's used for Iupiter/Zeus and in Sumerian it's a common name for "deity". Now, Turko-Mongol and Chinese have the exact same meaning but Turko-Mongol Teñri can be also used as a common word for "deity", just like Sumerian Dingir. Yet I also have to learn the Tungusic and perhaps Elamite equivalents of this term.

Btw, Lost Languages is not a reliable site.



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Posted By: battleaxe
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2005 at 20:44
Etruscan is an altaic tongue....really? never heard of such a thing.


Posted By: Turk
Date Posted: 18-Jan-2005 at 22:42

Tari is not Turkish...Much less "tari-khana".

Tanrý is Turkish for god or diety. (notice it's the letter ý not i).

Besides, the Turks already had their own religion.



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Posted By: Alparslan
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 08:30

To our Persian forumers.........

What does tari mean in Persian? I think there is a meaning related with Turks if I am not mistaken?



Posted By: Cyrus Shahmiri
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 09:30
Tari mean "Darkness" in Persian but "House of the Darkness" is not a good name for mosque!

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Posted By: ihsan
Date Posted: 20-Jan-2005 at 15:26

Etruscan is an altaic tongue....really? never heard of such a thing.

I didn't say Etruscan was Altaic. I just said the Etruscan name Tinis might have been related with Teñri.

Tari is not Turkish...

What does tari mean in Persian? I think there is a meaning related with Turks if I am not mistaken?

Remember that Persian a sounds more similar to Turkish e (but not exactly the same sound, more like the a as in Apple) and Persian â sounds more like Turkish a. So "Tari-khâne" would be written in Turkish as "Terî-hâne".

Tanrý is Turkish for god or diety. (notice it's the letter ý not i).

But it's "Tanrý" only in Anatolian Turkish, it's Teñri, Teñgri, Teñger, Teñgeri, etc in other dialects/languages.



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