Osama’s fight to ban oil for the US?
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Topic: Osama’s fight to ban oil for the US?
Posted By: Vamun Tianshu
Subject: Osama’s fight to ban oil for the US?
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2004 at 21:38
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Just a day or two ago,Osama Bin Laden released yet another video,this time urging the middle eastern people to stop selling oil to the US.What is your take on this?Will it happen? ------------- 
In Honor |
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Posted By: Genghis
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2004 at 21:52
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Nothing will happen, what's Bin Laden going to do about it? ------------- Member of IAEA |
Posted By: Vamun Tianshu
Date Posted: 20-Dec-2004 at 21:57
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Nothing really in my opinion,he threatened us before and did absolutely nothing.I just wanted to know what people think about this. -------------
In Honor |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 06:27
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If any country in the Middle East will stop selling oil to the USA, it'll be attacked or couped by the Western countries.
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Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 09:43
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good luck convincing businessmen to stop making bucketloads of money, Osama ------------- |
Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 10:24
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who will dare?
china is our next big market.
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Posted By: Christscrusader
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 13:01
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Heres the plan, we create a new way of getting energy without oil, and we don't have to suck up to those basta*d middle eastern countries. They will be left in the dust. ------------- Heaven helps those, who help themselves. -Jc |
Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 14:16
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eh
do your plan then and while you are doing it keep Sucking
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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 18:44
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were it not for oil the Middle East would have less relevence today than Mozambique, hell at least you can grow crops in Mozambique. Yes if we cut off the oil dependacy half of Osamas funding and most of the middle east despots will fade away, kind of ironic when you think of how the US is funding the middle east and by extention terrorism. But then again the US is practically married into the evil oil monarch market, talk about conflict of interests... ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 19:19
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Trouble is he's little more than GWB's patsy for 9/11, but the US government has built him up into some kind of demigog. The only weight his words carry is US media hype but US media hype is a pretty powerful thing. Own goal number one was sending in the CIA to arm and train islamic fundementalists in terrorism tactics to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. You'd think a lesson would be learnt. Instead own goal number two followed, a bunch of clueless cowboys have been turned into the new Red Menace. The real (not the media version) OBL could organise a piss up in a brewery. ------------- Light blue touch paper and stand well back http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk - http://www.maquahuitl.co.uk http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk - http://www.toltecitztli.co.uk |
Posted By: Vamun Tianshu
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 21:24
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The US is too dependent on the oil industry,perhaps nearly every industrialized country in this world is too dependent on oil.This dependent on oil is greatly hurting most the countries too dependent on it.If Osama was to do anything,he'd send his men to the bidding.They might bomb the threatened countries or whatever.The countries will of course have some force to back them up.No one knows what'll happen,however do you think that the Middle East will be so willing to give in to Osama,I don't think so.No one has found him,no one is bothering because they're too busy wasting their time in Iraq,dying for something that just might not happen with all the attacks bewildering Iraq's progression. Sure its media,but we can't be so arrogant as we were a decade ago when George W Bush's father issued a same attack on a war that would continue to go into the millenium.To waste lives on oil is so idiotic.Most of what the troops are fighting there for is to take control of the oil,just in case if the Iraqi people or other middle eastern people shut down their supplies to the US for disrupting their peace.Sure,its media talk,but so is the talk for the fight for Iraq to be a free country.Now,Iraq is a battlefield of bloody bombs,and the dead.For what purpose?This isn't just about the shutting of oils,but the lives that are being lost now because of the US involvement in the fight for Iraqi freedom. Iraq wasn't as violent as it is now without Saddam being there.Its turned into a death barring wasteland.Osama could do whatever he wants,but if the US and the other countries just retaliate to this threat,Osama would be getting what he wants.He'd be comfortable knowing that people are dying because of something that we really don't even need.Wow,cars and other stuff that is polluting our environment,like thats something to die for,when the cost will be much higher in the future than it is now.Osame might do it,maybe not.I know I'm getting off topic,but I must speak my opinion on this,like all of you have. -------------
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Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 22:26
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haha its so amusing to read azimuth's comments "who will dare attack an arab oil nation?"...as if attacking an arab country is political suicide everyone in the middle east (besides israel) who complains about the US getting too involved in their nations has good news...in 10 years, we won't care about you anymore! ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22-Dec-2004 at 04:24
I thought he meant which Arab oil nation will dare to stop delivering oil to the western countries. ------------- |
Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 08:48
no i meant who will dare to attack us remmember 1973 oil crisis who made it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_energy_crisis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_energy_crisis it was the arabs and no one attacked us and Murph it will be very good news if the USA wont need us in 10 years but i dont think that is true Israel needs US involvment in the ME without the US, Israeli-Palistinans problem will be solved much much faster
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Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 09:19
because one side will be completely anhilated by the other? ------------- |
Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 09:23
the US was a little preoccupied at the time with this little thing called the Vietnam War ------------- |
Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 09:27
if it was Little then such powerfull Country wont have a problem fighting more tham one side.
anyway they didnt attack and that is the FACT.
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Posted By: Murph
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 09:37
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sorry, i guess you didn't comprehend my sarcasm when i called the Vietnam War "little" i was being sarcastic...the Vietnam War was a huge war for America also, there were anti-war riots all across America...how would they have reacted to another war? in regards to your "fact", you're correct, no one attacked. but i think you'll agree that the situation over the past 30 years has changed drastically, and i feel that the Western powers are less hesitant to go to war in the middle east now than they were in 1973 ------------- |
Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 09:56
let the US and its "allies" get controle of Iraq first and by the way how much did the US spent already in Iraq war so far?( from the american population pocket) and did they really restored the "Free Afganistan"? and did they stopped the Alqaida threats with thier WAR against Terror? hmmm i think they will "hesitat" again but anyway i dont think any middel eastern country will stop selling oil to whoever since they have huge development plans for the Future. |
Posted By: Cornellia
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 10:02
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How do you feel about the reports that the oil reserves in the Middle East are within years of being depleted? ------------- Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas |
Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 10:17
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how do i feel?
i dont care because each year we are getting less dependant on oil money i think it is 70% now, used to be 100% 30 years ago. iam talking about my country UAE dubai is the trade center and dubai is depending only 60% on oil they have huge developments underconstruction and in few years they wont be in any need of selling oil. i think it is around 130 years until we have the last drop of oil by that time i think we will be fine
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Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 12:46
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70% is HUGE dependancy. Truth is without oil the modern middle east would have absolutely no importance and the world wouldnt have as many problems because no one would be messing around with Arab nations and Arab nations wouldnt be messing around with religious extremism. ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 13:07
Hi Dear Cornellia. Pres. Porfirio Diaz commented once: Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the USA. The remark was driven by the continous intromision of the US in our domestic affairs due our oil. A mexican poet called once the oil as the Poison of the Devil. We need to start working on new energy sources. However, in case that new sources could be found or developed, still will be a source of pressure to get them and keep them , in order to keep in motion to the world economy. |
Posted By: Christscrusader
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 13:59
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If the oil reserves are gone then alot of the terrorist money will stop flowing as well. ------------- Heaven helps those, who help themselves. -Jc |
Posted By: Jalisco Lancer
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 14:17
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I just hope that Latin America can be segregated out of this mess. Our mainly market is the USA. We are not U.S. allies, but U.S. trade partners. Mexico and Venezuela has reinforced the security at the oil extraction locations since Sept 11 to avoid any terrorist attck to our patrimony. |
Posted By: Fizzil
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 16:23
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Azimuth are you sure its 70%? last i heard oil dependancy is 40% in the UAE, in a few decades we'll have elimnated oil dependancy completely and rely on trade. America does not need UAE oil as they rely on Kuwait and Saudia, were mostly dealing with australia and japan currently.
The more closer we run out of oil the better imho, we'd be left in peace by then. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 23-Dec-2004 at 19:36
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Of course it's sad for countries if their natural resources are gone,
but on the other hand the oil does more bad than good in the Middle
East. Perhaps they can switch to solar energy? ------------- |
Posted By: azimuth
Date Posted: 24-Dec-2004 at 12:54
no it is 70% to 60% depends on each Emirates for example AbuDhabi is depending on oil for more than 85% and dubai 60% but these figurs are getting less and less and faster than before busness is growing much faster, this is an article about Dubai's crown prince shiek mohammed http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2004/0315/092.html - http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2004/0315/092.html
and yes we are selling oil more to the East ( Japan , China ...) more than the US saudi arabia and kuwait are the major US providers
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Posted By: Cywr
Date Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 06:47
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Eh, isn't this like asking a heroin adict, in the peak of his high, to stop using heroin? Its not going to happen, the economies of those countries and the governments that rule them are dependant on an economy that to a fairly large degree relies on the export of oil or oil derived products and services. -------------  Arrrgh!!"
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