Steppe empire best bureaucracy?
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Forum Name: Steppe Nomads and Central Asia
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Topic: Steppe empire best bureaucracy?
Posted By: mongke
Subject: Steppe empire best bureaucracy?
Date Posted: 06-Dec-2004 at 21:31
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Which steppe empire did the best job in setting up a bureacracy and administering their conquered territory?
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Posted By: cliveersknell
Date Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 23:43
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The Mongols
Clive |
Posted By: Temujin
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2004 at 13:05
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i'd say Tocharians/Yüezhi, Magyars and Bulgars. ------------- |
Posted By: mongke
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2004 at 14:53
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Where do the Khitans, Jurcheds, and the Manchus
fall? |
Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2004 at 14:57
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what?? the Mughals so had the best administration! ------------- "the people are nothing but a great beast... I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
Posted By: mongke
Date Posted: 09-Dec-2004 at 14:59
What about Seljuk turks and Ottoman turks? |
Posted By: Nick1986
Date Posted: 16-Nov-2011 at 19:18
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Did these nomads bring the bureaucracy with them, or did they adopt a system already in place among the conquered population?
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Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2014 at 11:31
Surely you're joking. The Mongols, a bureaucracy? Hardly. The only bureaucratic aspect of the Mongols was the election of a new Khan. The Mongols were an Autocracy. |
Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2014 at 14:29
What ??? Are they steppe empires??? ------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 03-Jan-2014 at 22:03
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I would contend that the Turks are a "steppe" group!
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Posted By: Ollios
Date Posted: 04-Jan-2014 at 09:56
I don't. Steppe is firstly a geographic term but historically, for me it is relavent with nomadic life style.  Central USA is great grassland-steppe, is the USA steppe democracy? I don't think so.  ------------- Ellerin Kabe'si var, Benim Kabem İnsandır |
Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2014 at 22:51
And again you'd be wrong. Anatolia is nowhere near the Pontic or Caspian Steppe. The only connections that the Turks share with the Steppe people is that they once spoke a Proto Indo European language, before moving onto their current language. Why do you post such garbage? ------------- |
Posted By: opuslola
Date Posted: 16-Jan-2014 at 23:37
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And why, young sir or lady, do you attack me so? You call my post "garbage"! That is a strong insult, and strange since it comes from you!
So can you deny my challenge? You must forward information that is not "second hand" or found within the words of others whose original words are only second hand, or worse! These sources would not get you very far in a "Court of Law!" Regards my young historian! Ron ------------- http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/history/ |
Posted By: toyomotor
Date Posted: 17-Jan-2014 at 01:29
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Ron:
(1)I call your posts garbage because you seem to habitually post statements which are not substantiated by any scientific research or evidence. A quick look at an atlas will show you that Anatolia, home of the Turkish people since the Chalcolithic period, is nowhere near the Pontic/Caspian Steppe. Why don't you do some research before posting? (2) All knowledge is gained as the result of scientific research and peer review, it is then presented to the public as established fact, or in some cases, an individuals opinion. When that opinion is not accepted by other experts, debate usually results in a consensus opinion. (3) Don't talk to me of "Courts of Law", I spent my entire adult life working within the legal industry, and proper researched and accepted sources are indeed accepted by courts. (4)I'm not so young as you sarcastically suggest, I'm two years younger than you. I refer your attention to AE Code of Conduct & Terms of Use VII(A)(3) Trolling. You deserve to be challenged, you NEED to be challenged when you post misinformation or deliberately wrong information, not to do so could add some degree of legitimacy to your posts, which they certainly don't deserve. ------------- |