I thoght that we could have a discussion about the seljuk armies,

What did the seljuk armies consist of,  type of unit and so on , I have a picture here but it deosn't say much , maybe something for Ihsan and me to discuss about ,  , isn't that right Ihsan ,

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The earliest armies of the Seljuks (correct form Seljûkid in English) were consisted of Oghuz light riders, these continued to be a large and important force in the later days. After conquering some of the Islamic lands, they added Ghulâm Guards (Ghulâmân or Ghulâm ment Slave) to their armies; most Ghulâms were of Iranic stock, from Iran and Afghanistan, but I guess they incluided a few number of Turkics too. Apart from these, they also had other troops but I don't know much about them.

The armies of Anatolian Seljuks were a bit different. They had light riders and Ghulams, but their armies also incluided Greek infantries and European mercenaries (mostly Norman knights, to my knowledge).

In the pic you posted, the dismounted guy on the left is a Turkoman tribal leader and the guy on the right is a Ghulâm.

At the Battle of Manzikert, Sultân Alparslan's Turkoman riders harrassed Byzantine ranks all through the day and when the Byzantines charged, the sultan launched a final melee assault with his Ghulâms, supported with Turkoman riders. The Byzantine army was surrounded and it finally broke under the lances, sabres, swords and maces of the Ghulâms.

• Ihsan wrote:

• most Ghulâms were of Iranic stock, from Iran and Afghanistan, but I guess they incluided a few number of Turkics too. Apart from these, they also had other troops but I don't know much about them.

 I find it quite strange that the GHulams where of Iranic stock, we are talking about the seljuk, and not the Ghaznivids are we, could you then please explain how they where from Iranic stock, 

occordning to medievel muslim chronicls, source's the Ghulam where indeed of turkic stock,  can you please enlighten us Ihsan ,

Some sources say they were Iranic, some say they were Turkic. And the Anatolian Seljûkids had some Greek Ghulâms.

Originally posted by Gallipoli Really powerful troops. Remember Manzikert

 Yesss we kicked the greek as...

Another important unit of the Seljuk armies were the Sipâhis, who were soldiers given fief-like land, similar to the Byzantine Theme system.

The Ghulâms and Sipâhis made up the Hassâ army. During the peak of the Seljûkid Greater Sultanate, the Hassâ of the Great Sultans were consisted of 45,000 men. Of course, there were Hassâ units of local governors and members of the royal family too.

those tents are HUGE

guy on the right has the sexiest armor