Shape of the eyes
Printed From: History Community ~ All Empires
Category: General History
Forum Name: Archaeology & Anthropology
Forum Discription: Topics on archaeology and anthropology
URL: http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13996
Printed Date: 25-Apr-2024 at 00:10
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 9.56a - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Shape of the eyes
Posted By: Afsar Beghi
Subject: Shape of the eyes
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2006 at 14:49
|
does anybody have information about the connection between the shape of the eyes and an ethnic origin? I know about slanted eyes and so on , but is it also possible there are eyes that are a mixture of different shapes of the eye?
------------- Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur, Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur, Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir, Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir! |
Replies:
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 13-Aug-2006 at 15:24
|
turks have hazle shaped eyes thats all I know ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: Herschel
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2006 at 00:06
|
The question I've always had is why did slanted eyes develop in East Asia? Unlike the polar regions, it does not have any more intense sunlight than the rest of the moderate regions of Earth. On top of that, some Chinese provinces, especially in Southern China, have extremely cloudy and extremely foggy days for large portions of the year. ------------- |
Posted By: Afsar Beghi
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2006 at 11:25
hazel has nothing to do with shape , its a colour ------------- Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur, Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur, Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir, Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2006 at 12:34
|
Hazel is just a slightly ligher shape of brown. Otherwise the eye is just green.
------------- |
Posted By: Afsar Beghi
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2006 at 14:43
|
its true most turks have hazel eyes. I have hazel eyes too. But in my family there are people with green or blue eyes, so as far as I know colour has nothing to do with ethnicity , I think shape does?
------------- Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur, Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur, Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir, Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir! |
Posted By: çok geç
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2006 at 17:27
Good point. Because I heard it multiple times on this forum that slanted eyes are mother nature evolution to reduce eye exposure to extreme cold temperatures and dry winds. Doesn't make sense really considering that the same conditions are presented on various regions on the globe, yet, only Asians developed that "advantage".
considering the fact that Human immigration from Africa to Europe is older that the immigration to East Asia. It is hard to believe mother nature will adopt the recent comers to East Asia properly but fail to do so to comers to Europe. ------------- D.J. Kaufman Wisdom is the reward for a lifetime of listening ... when youd have preferred to talk. |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2006 at 18:27
|
sorry what I ment was coller is hazle and the shape is bit like a almond not slanted like chinese or japanese but also not "round" like "white people" ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 15-Aug-2006 at 18:30
|
liek this turkish proverb
When a blind man dies, they say he had almond eyes; when a bald man dies, they say he had golden hair" ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: Goban
Date Posted: 16-Aug-2006 at 00:17
Well, there is a controversy going on about weather Asia follows the complete replacement model or that of regional continuity. Chinese paleoanthropologists believe they have a H. erectus dating approximately 200,000 y.a. wich has some modern features (the Jinniushan skeleton, Tiemel et al., 1994). This suggests thry have their own lineage.
But...
Most believe that it's a regional variant of a H. heidelbergensis. Which are predominately an African and European premodern.
 Who knows. So many controversies in anthro. I love it.
 Edit: Also there is the Ordos find which supposedly has modern material from 50,000 y.a. (Physical Anthropology, Essentials of, 2006) ------------- The sharpest spoon in the drawer. |
Posted By: Herschel
Date Posted: 19-Aug-2006 at 13:14
I think the dominant eye color in Turkey is probably dark brown. Light eye colors such as green and blue are, I'd guess, under 10% of the total population. And those are probably from converted Balkan populations. Would I be wrong in thinking this?  ------------- |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2006 at 06:39
|
In turkey mabey turks tend to have more light brown or greenyellowish (elag) ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: Desperado
Date Posted: 20-Aug-2006 at 16:33
| "... And those are probably from converted Balkan populations. Would I be wrong in thinking this?"-a three centuries of janissary recruiting cannot disappear without a trace. |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2006 at 02:52
even bc when the turks lived as far as mongolia the xiongnu were discribed as coller eyed people. ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: Afsar Beghi
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2006 at 10:28
the balkan populations consisted also of turkic people (turkic people migrated back to turkey) so you are both right. But there also could be a little non-turkic balkan influence. But the topic is about the shape of the eyes can we please stay ontopic
------------- Dadaloğlum bir gun kavga kurulur, Oter tufek davlumbazlar vurulur, Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir, Olen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir! |
Posted By: Herschel
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2006 at 11:37
Hmmm.....I still don't know. I've seen Turks with vibrant and beautiful blue eyes before, but the vast majority almost looked like they had extremely dark brown eyes. Even if you look at the Turkish members in this forum (in the photo thread), they mostly look very dark brown. I'd even say most Mediterranean Europeans have dark brown eyes. |
Posted By: The Gypo
Date Posted: 21-Aug-2006 at 23:49
|
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/GypoCichlid/Untitled-1aacopybcopy.jpg - http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/GypoCichlid/Untitled-1aacopybcopy.jpg
these are my eyes...along with eye brows... ------------- http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/GypoCichlid/gyposig021.jpg - http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/GypoCichlid/gyposig021.jpg |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2006 at 06:05
I have light brown eyes my father has elah(green yellowish) my mother darker brown my sister the same as me.
In my father and mothers family collered eyes are verry common i have cousins with bright blue and green and some have verry dark brown eyes.
I have one second cousin in turkey who has such blue eyes they look like marbles. ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |
Posted By: Herschel
Date Posted: 24-Aug-2006 at 19:18
|
Your family may not represent the entire population, though. Both of my parents, my grandparents, and my great grandmother have blue eyes. I'm actually the odd one in my family with muddy green-blue eyes. Even most of the people in my school and workplace have light eyes. (Wisconsin has a lot of Germans, Scandinavians, and Irish) From that statement, would you infer that all people of European decent have light colored eyes? I'd be curious what the percentage of blondism is in Central, Eastern, and Southern Turkey. I mean, I don't know what part your ancestors came from, but they may have decended from a Greco-Slavic-Anatolian mix. |
Posted By: xi_tujue
Date Posted: 25-Aug-2006 at 14:43
well i'll bet your going to say I knew it.
 my greatgrand fathers(both) came from caucasus(georgia) there ahiska turks(but there two kinds you have (Yerli Turkish speaking agriculturalists and Terekeme azeri-speaking pastoralists) I don't know wich one but My money is on the yerlis.
oh yeah the turkmens have also blue eyes and blond hair and even a few mongolians have blond hair mostly litle girls.
you can find colored eyes and hair all over "the turkic world" ------------- I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage |