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Topic: The most extreme historical events
Posted By: Guests
Subject: The most extreme historical events
Date Posted: 11-Nov-2004 at 19:15
What are some of the most extreme historical events?



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Posted By: Jagatai Khan
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2004 at 01:57
The massacre and impaling of 20.000 people by Vlad Tepes.That people was composed of Turks,Russians,German tribes,Slavs etc.But the big amount of them were Ottoman soldiers commanded by Hamza Pasha.When Sultan Mehmed II's army arrived there,the soldiers saw Hamza Pasha impaled and died,he was recognizable....

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2004 at 17:13
Bush wining the 2 term.


Posted By: Tobodai
Date Posted: 14-Nov-2004 at 19:46
discovery and conquests of the Americas

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 18-Nov-2004 at 10:34
the big bang!!! BOOOOM!!!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 13:23
is there any small number of people in the history such as circasians that defend their homeland against a brutal empire.


Posted By: mark1100
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 16:32
The massacre and impaling of 20.000 people by Vlad Tepes

compared to ww2 this was just a normal day


Posted By: Exarchus
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 17:30
The French Revolution was an important event IMO. Not only for France but for Yurp.

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Posted By: Constantine XI
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 22:44
The Russian revolution, the Holocaust, the adoption of Christianity by Constantine I. Alexander's conquests would also be considered an extreme area.

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Posted By: poirot
Date Posted: 07-Jun-2005 at 22:49
The Holocaust, the Rape of Nanking, the Battle of Stalingrad, the massacre of Kurds by Saddam Hussein, the mass genocide against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo ...

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Posted By: Moller
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 03:29

The trench war in WW1....endless oppitunities..



Posted By: Paul
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 04:58
Pol Pot's year zero take some beating..

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Posted By: Menippos
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 06:35
The invention of alcohol.

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Posted By: akıncı
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 09:51
blame the arabs for that

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 10:21

Originally posted by telvin83

is there any small number of people in the history such as circasians that defend their homeland against a brutal empire.

Well, if we consider Hittites as a Circassian dynasty, then that's possible.



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Posted By: Bishop
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 12:45
WWII without a doubt was the most extreme human event.

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Posted By: Decebal
Date Posted: 08-Jun-2005 at 20:11

In terms of sheer terror and brutality concentrated in a short span of time: the Rwandan genocide. 900,000 people killed in 3 months. By comparison, the Holocaust killed 6 million in 4 years; at the pace of the Rwandan genocide, it would have been about 11.5 milllion. Also, the methods of the Rwandan genocide make it particularly brutal: most people were killed with machetes and clubs.

The revolt of An Lu Shan in T'ang dynasty China caused 20 million deaths in less than 5 years, from a population of 50 million. A large proportion of those deaths were indirect though, as a result of starvation.

Temur Lenk is estimated to have been responsible for the deaths of 6 million people in his lifetime.



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Posted By: Ahmed The Fighter
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2005 at 09:26
The partition of poland,defeated of spanish armmada,the american independence war,arab expand after death of prophet muhammed,mission barbarosa in ww II,saddam hussien massacre againest shia and kurds and the important event ever the belfur's promise for jews he said he shall give them palastine as thier home this is inreasonable because it is not his land this is the strangest behaviour in the history

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Posted By: Richard XIII
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2005 at 09:44
I think was a secret train trip from Switzerland to Russia. 

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15-Jun-2005 at 20:26

The use of the atomic bomb in Japan.



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Posted By: GENERAL PARMENION
Date Posted: 16-Jun-2005 at 13:27
Originally posted by DRAKON

The use of the atomic bomb in Japan.

I absolutely agree. An act done by the "civilized Allies". It just has to be one of the greatest ( if not the greatest ) crimes in world wide history.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 18:38
Originally posted by poirot

the mass genocide against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo ...

There was no mass genocide against the Albanians in Kosovo. You were manipulated by western secret services, which deliberately and intentionally via media falsed the reality. Or I rather should say: lied outright.


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Posted By: BMC21113
Date Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 21:59
I have to agree with the WWII statement!

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Posted By: Maju
Date Posted: 11-Jan-2006 at 02:06
Originally posted by DRAKON

The use of the atomic bomb in Japan.



I agree: you can't indiscriminately kill more people in a more brutal manner and in a cheapest way than with a nuclear bomb.

That event has changed our world like nothing else ever did.


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Posted By: o_irengun
Date Posted: 11-Jan-2006 at 06:03

   Discovery  of  writing  by  the Sumers

   Birth of  Jesus

    



Posted By: Qin Dynasty
Date Posted: 12-Jan-2006 at 04:24
well, the greatest event in human's history should be human being came into existence!!!


Posted By: Justinian
Date Posted: 12-Jan-2006 at 23:56

WWII and its aftermath:  cold war, creation of Israel etc.



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Posted By: Genghis
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 00:14
I'd say the invention of a written language because that has been what has made all human progress possible.  Going from a society where the only way to transmit knowledge was by telling it to someone to one where people from far and wide, and across thousands of years can read what you wrote, know what you know, and feel what you feel is without a doubt the biggest event in all of human existence.

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Posted By: Fort Brooklyn
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 00:46

In modern history I'd say...

The assassination of Franz Ferdinand

Sparked a world war, destroyed one nation which sparked enough hatred to begin a second world war. That second world war led to the creation of the most destructive weapon ever and the beginning of the Cold War. During the C.W the creation of a tiny little nation called Israel occured and well...you can figure the rest out.



Posted By: Komnenos
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 07:58
Originally posted by Fort Brooklyn

In modern history I'd say...


The assassination of Franz Ferdinand


Sparked a world war, destroyed one nation which sparked enough hatred to begin a second world war. That second world war led to the creation of the most destructive weapon ever and the beginning of the Cold War. During the C.W the creation of a tiny little nation called Israel occured and well...you can figure the rest out.



I'm rather wary of the argument that WW1 inevitably caused WW2.
There was no such inevitability about the second war.

It was Hitler's and Nazi-Germany's deliberate choice to start yet another round of mass slaughter, and although the hate and dreams of revenge that the nationalist forces in Germany felt against Germany's rather harsh treatment in Versailles, contributed to accomodate Hitler's rise to power, it didn't inform the Nazi's motivations for their military agression. The whole fascist Nazi ideology, their insane believe in the Germans' superiority, and in the natural right of the country to dominate or eradicate lesser countries and people, their alleged need to create more space for the development of the "master-race" was, what sparked WW2.
I think one should be more careful when investigating the Nazi's motivations for their numerous barbaric actions.
There are no excuses.

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Posted By: docyabut
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 08:06
70,000 years ago when man almost went extinct.


Posted By: sovietsniper
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 12:39
 The october revoluthion. The first (if short lived) worker-phesent state was created.

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Posted By: Fort Brooklyn
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 14:27
Originally posted by Komnenos

Originally posted by Fort Brooklyn

In modern history I'd say...


The assassination of Franz Ferdinand


Sparked a world war, destroyed one nation which sparked enough hatred to begin a second world war. That second world war led to the creation of the most destructive weapon ever and the beginning of the Cold War. During the C.W the creation of a tiny little nation called Israel occured and well...you can figure the rest out.



I'm rather wary of the argument that WW1 inevitably caused WW2.
There was no such inevitability about the second war.

It was Hitler's and Nazi-Germany's deliberate choice to start yet another round of mass slaughter, and although the hate and dreams of revenge that the nationalist forces in Germany felt against Germany's rather harsh treatment in Versailles, contributed to accomodate Hitler's rise to power, it didn't inform the Nazi's motivations for their military agression. The whole fascist Nazi ideology, their insane believe in the Germans' superiority, and in the natural right of the country to dominate or eradicate lesser countries and people, their alleged need to create more space for the development of the "master-race" was, what sparked WW2.
I think one should be more careful when investigating the Nazi's motivations for their numerous barbaric actions.
There are no excuses.

Yes, of course the second world war was inevitable. But I'm pretty sure the whole Nazi ideaology came after the first WW. Hitler enlisted in the Barvarian army in 1914 and it is only after the the end of the war did he start to blame everyone else for it. In 1918-1920 is when he started attending political events and eventually the whole thing came to him.

Did he always have it in his head? Most likely. But a German victory in WWI would've kept it inside possibly. The end of WWI is what made Hitler even angrier and by chance found his way to the NSDAP and well the rest is history.



Posted By: Hannibal Barca
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 14:51
Originally posted by Maju

Originally posted by DRAKON

The use of the atomic bomb in Japan.



I agree: you can't indiscriminately kill more people in a more brutal manner and in a cheapest way than with a nuclear bomb.

That event has changed our world like nothing else ever did.

Oh I'm sorry. DId you say "cheapest?" Really? I didn't know that there was anything considered "cheap" when it comes to war. Were you thinking when you typed that post. Might as well consider Pearl Harbor a shot to the nuts. Japanese deserved it just for being stupid enough to challenge us. WHen your top military commander says that you can;t win then the war is pretty much decided right there.

150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualties? 150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualites? Think about it for a good long while.



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Posted By: Fort Brooklyn
Date Posted: 13-Jan-2006 at 15:18
Originally posted by Hannibal Barca

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Oh I'm sorry. DId you say "cheapest?" Really? I didn't know that there was anything considered "cheap" when it comes to war. Were you thinking when you typed that post. Might as well consider Pearl Harbor a shot to the nuts. Japanese deserved it just for being stupid enough to challenge us. WHen your top military commander says that you can;t win then the war is pretty much decided right there.

150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualties? 150,000 casualties or 1,000,000 casualites? Think about it for a good long while.

I'm goin to have to agree with Hannibal. By usin the bomb not only did we show our superiority to the Japanese(as if our complete destruction of their naval and air forces didn't do already)..but we also saved a good million American lives with that.

I remember I interviewed a friend of my grandmother who was in the Marines in the Pacific theatre. He showed me a prototype layout of the land invasion of Japan and whatnot. Told me they all knew it would've been a dirty fight. If I remember correctly, the Japanese army still had a few million soldiers enlisted.

So from a military viewpoint, it was justified.




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