Oguzoglu, lets say Sassanid-Abbasid-Islamic state organization.
Our state organization is a form of Sassanid, Ilber Ortayli starts his book dsecribing Ottoman State organization with Sassanid Shahdom Chapter.
Azimuth is in some sense right, greatest empire a Turk founded was Ottoman Empire. But yes, not Islam but the Persian-Islamic civilization helped us, togerther with the Chinese civilization. First Sogdian and chinese, than Persian and Islamic civilization added, than the Greco-Roman. LOL.
But not everytime Islam defined Ottoman Empire, it was also defined by traditions, like every empire did.
The civil way of life started before Islam, and accelerated with the Seljuks.
Though I can not agree with the Mongol issues , LOL. I do not say we are same 100% percent , hahahahahaha. And all those tribes are not the same with 100%.
Anyway, I have discussed them in our new forum. Hehehehehe... Quoted some from Urgunge Onon, that some tribes from Turkic group, Kereyids and Naimans spoke a language akin of Mongol tribe.
Onon, the one authority in Mongol history, names each tribe and people groups with their names, does not divide them into two groups.
Cengiz, keep it calm mate, Azimuth is our nice friend .
Take care dudes,
Memo
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