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Africa...why is it the poorest continent?

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    Posted: 29-Mar-2005 at 05:12
Originally posted by Tobodai

dammit, people intrested in history need to learn more science, geography is more imporant than history in explaining why Africa is the way it is.

Then why hasn't Africa been poor throughout history? Before the Europeans came there were some very rich empires.
and still there are many rich people in Africa, but it's only 2% or so of the population. Surely geography can't explain that!
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Mar-2005 at 20:13

yes but those rich places like early Ethiopia, medieval Zimbabwe, and Mali where isolated pockets amist a sea of poor and or scattered peoples.  In the case of Zimbabwe and Ethiopia it was because they were located on some of the only good land in the continent, in the case of Mali and Songhai it was because they were located between two commerical groups, once again these things all have to do with geography.But even the most powerful empire in Africa (Mali) was not so wealthy comparitively.  WHen it was at its height Europe wasnt anything important so in comparrison it looked great, but if you compare Mali to its contemporaries in northern India or China it does not meet the criteria for glorious wealth.

Im not bashing African empires, Im an African studies minor, just stating the truth, the vast expanse of the sahara coupled with barely navigatible rivers and the shortest coastline of any continent with few indentations or natural harbors really did more to Africa than colonialism did, though I agree colonialism too played a part int he poorness of the continent.

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Mar-2005 at 22:43
Its not so much that Africa got poorer, its that other places around Africa got richer as they found a place within the new global economy and Africa got left behind as it were.
Its present relationship as unstable supplier of cheap cash crops and the fact that parts of it endure the most cripling debt servicing policies don't help much either.
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  Quote The Golden Phallanx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Apr-2005 at 18:29

Originally posted by Mixcoatl

Originally posted by Tobodai

dammit, people intrested in history need to learn more science, geography is more imporant than history in explaining why Africa is the way it is.

Then why hasn't Africa been poor throughout history? Before the Europeans came there were some very rich empires.
and still there are many rich people in Africa, but it's only 2% or so of the population. Surely geography can't explain that!

Well said! ...except maybe their geography made them lag behind in technological developement which led to their own enslavement over time when more advanced people from different regions conquered them. For this reason, it al falls back to georgraphy...and this 2% is mostly white business men, somewhat like the nobility of 2 centuries ago and what were beginning to see here back home with Bush's business tax cuts.

Now here's a thougth, is it really georgraphy that makes a people lag behind, or is it the people itself? My personal theory would be the peopel are defined by what they have lived, thus its the geography but I'm not sure.

We are all a result of what we have lived. Culture, attitude, perspective. For everything we do, there is a reason. There is no true evil, only the absence of proper communication.
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  Quote sedamoun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Nov-2005 at 06:18

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Well said! ...except maybe their geography made them lag behind in technological developement which led to their own enslavement over time when more advanced people from different regions conquered them. For this reason, it al falls back to georgraphy...and this 2% is mostly white business men, somewhat like the nobility of 2 centuries ago and what were beginning to see here back home with Bush's business tax cuts.

Now here's a thougth, is it really georgraphy that makes a people lag behind, or is it the people itself? My personal theory would be the peopel are defined by what they have lived, thus its the geography but I'm not sure.

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Africa, before it was ravaged by the Europeans during the 15th century (and up until today), had a tribal population with wealth, but not in the same way as in Europe. Africans were, according to western standards, not developed... but i think they had another development, their own culture, beliefs and way of life.

We see this a negative thing because we wanted to imose our lifestyle and values to the whole world (still the case today...).

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