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Topic: Fake Muslim Site Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 09:31 |
Originally posted by Mila
^ I'll relay a story I've shared before, it's an important message I think. . |
Thank you Mila for sharing your story. Unfortunately we do not build our jurisdictions and laws based on personal experiences and stories. Maybe that is why we don't have Saints in Islam. Anyhow, you said you only trust the Quran, then you might be interested reading this:
"it was for the Quran to give us all laws and jurisdictions we need in Islam, why would Allah asks us to ask people of knoweldge? Quran even instruct you to ask people of knowelde and the messenger.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/016.qmt.html
016.043 YUSUFALI: And before thee also the messengers We sent were but men, to whom We granted inspiration: if ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message. PICKTHAL: And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men whom We inspired - Ask the followers of the Remembrance if ye know not! - SHAKIR: And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation-- so ask the followers of the Reminder if you do not know-- "
By the way, that is from the thread "Gender Jihad". Me and Seko are advertising that thread
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D.J. Kaufman
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Mila
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 10:58 |
I'm not saying I'm right - I'm saying I believe I'm right. I've
researched all the questions I've had, found what I believe the be the
answers, and I'm following them.
I could be wrong, I'm only human - but if I'm wrong, I'm going to be
wrong by my own doing - not by society's, not some Mullah's - by my own.
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 13:32 |
Originally posted by Mila
I'm not saying I'm right - I'm saying I believe I'm right. I've
researched all the questions I've had, found what I believe the be the
answers, and I'm following them.
I could be wrong, I'm only human - but if I'm wrong, I'm going to be
wrong by my own doing - not by society's, not some Mullah's - by my own.
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exactly the sooner people realize that the better - the thing is
islam means submission and that is on an individual level and people
all people have a different perception of it when they read the qu'ran
- no one should judge another for praying a certain way or believeing a
certain thing
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Miller
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 14:57 |
Originally posted by Mila
^ I'll relay a story I've shared before, it's an important message I think.
My friend Ajsa (Aisha) is very, very traditional. She always wears a veil in public (which is abnormal enough in Bosniak culture), prays five times a day (not always at mosque), avoids anything of a violent or sexual nature (movies, plays, etc.), and so on.
My Grandmother is always teasing her and one day was asking her why shes does all this. And Ajsa said because she wanted to be a good Muslim. And my Grandmother asked: So you think you have to do all these superficial, ritualistic things to get to heaven? And Ajsa said yes. And Nena said: So you want you to do them to go to heaven? And Ajsa said yes.
Nana said: "What... all by yourself?"
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Oh, she wouldn't be alone. There is going to be lots of company, every fundamentalist including Mullahs, Sheiks, and Mufties will be there. For that kind of reward I would cover my hair also
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ok ge
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Posted: 01-Nov-2005 at 15:46 |
Originally posted by Mila
I'm not saying I'm right - I'm saying I believe I'm right. I've researched all the questions I've had, found what I believe the be the answers, and I'm following them.
I could be wrong, I'm only human - but if I'm wrong, I'm going to be wrong by my own doing - not by society's, not some Mullah's - by my own.
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Knowledge is unlimited, so continue your search and don't stop on a favorable point. Im still learning a lot almost every single day.
Now, you don't have to go on the extreme of both spectrum. You don't follow people claiming direct order from God after the prophet ,i.e like Mullahs, and neither you have to restrict yourself only to the Quran because again Quran didn't come to us shipped via Fed-Ex, it came with the messenger who had a role to explain that message and he himself is instructed, guided, and inspired by God as it is descriped in the Quran itself. Even those Muftis or Mullahs, you should not take anything from them, always ask them, what is your proof from Quran and the Prophet's instructions? Proof Proof Proof!
Anyhow, that is a subject that is away from this thread's main topic and we have already discussed in the other thread of "gender jihad". Sorry for any redundancy.
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Posted: 02-Nov-2005 at 10:17 |
There are two groups of people, if these two groups are good then the people will be good & if these two groups become corrupted & bad then the people will become corrupted & bad
That is the Ulemaa, the scholars and the rulers
We witnessed the scholars and the rules of the past
compare to the scholars and the rulers of today
rulers have the money and the power to pollute the UMMAH
But, the scholars got the knowledge, responsibility and the trust of the UMMAH
So, This goes out to all the scholars of today who try to manipulate the Deen of Allah
and a wake up call to all of those Muslims who rely blindly on the words of the scholars
instead of what Allah has commanded
To those who look up to the scholars like the priests and quote their fake fatwahs
just because of their position that they got from the rulers
WOE TO THOSE SCHOLARS WHO GET PAID TO MISGUIDE OUR UMMAH
Fake Scholars and False leaders
Claiming therere our Healers
Insulting our Intelligence
In so called Islamic Methods
Lairs!!!!
Muslim Scholars for hire
Telling us
We need American Islam
Dividing the Ummah into sections
looking for the answer in congress
Muslims voting in elections
Crooked scholars
Working for the system
Selling our land to kufar buyers
Shifting our path like a rolling tire
Action based on desire
Misguiding our Ummah
Be prepare to be surrounded by Allahs hellfire
You tell me about your PHD in every Islamic degree
Reciting the Quran
Oh so beautifully
It doesnt justify your false actions
You dont want me to see
Our brothers and sisters are leaving Islam
Because you teach them a culture
That is haram
Puppet to the kufar
So they pay for your new car
Hiding under your mask .
Helping them with their task
Your think Jennet is for free???
Your long beard and turban is the key????
Allah will replace those who dont carry this deen
You may think you fool those brothers around me
But youll never to fool me!
Funded by the saudi government
And now youre loving it
You knew the truth
But you decided to cover it
Sold out Mullahs
Side by side with these corrupted rulers
Spitting out fake fatwahs
thought you could fool us??!!
Neglecting the FARD but you enforce the Sunnah
Attached to this dunniah
Misguiding this Ummah
Muslims catching their Zs at your weak Khutbahs
Reruns-- every Friday--at noon--at Jummah
Under close CIA surveillance
So you got your fake cover up
I see you on TV making peace talks with the yahoodas
Blaming the Muslims when the trade center blew up
On your knees begin America please
I thought your name was ABDULLAH!!
Compromising This Deen
Letting Kufar intervene
Planting your poisonous seed
As we watch our Ummah bleed
Claiming u study so many years of Islam
But Yet you twist the Quran
Brain washing the Ummah
Praising king Hussein & Diana
While they are slaughtering Muslims in Kosovo
Celebrating eid with bill & Hillary (cheers)
Justifying your ties with the kufar
Getting paid on the American salary
Portraying Muslims as nothing
But just a minority
Amusing me
With your confusing dawah delivery
Cant comprehend what youre telling me
Bringing in your missionaries
To shows us similarities
Between Islam and trinity???
Making our history a mystery
Our Ummah in misery
Allah has promised us victory
But you still make Duaah to Bill and Hillary
The prophet taught us a better way to make a stand
Establish one state
And only use ISLAM to regulate
But you still smile with arrogance
Like a clown
When you hear the word Khilafah
You frown
But just remember this
Every soul will taste death
Youll be asked
For the words that you said
On the last day
It will be too late to pray
So What you got to say
When you meet ALLAH on judgement day!!!!!
Ignoring the vital issues
Teaching only prayer & Addan
Claiming no difference between Islam & democracy!!
Selling Islam cheap
While our Ummah is in deep sleep
With all that knowledge
But Yet you abuse it
Selling us American figh??
Heeeee!!!!!!..
Yes!!! We refuse it
Oh Muslims Ummah open your eyes widely
Dont take the commands of Allah lightly
Grab on to the rope of Allah tightly
And dont be fooled by these fake scholars blindly
Our Ummah is under worldwide oppression
Telling us to westernize Islam??
Cause thats the solution???
Tired of these fake scholars
Who twist my questions
Telling me register to vote!!!??
In your haram election
I cant stand you praising the constitution !!!!!!!!
When we know!!!!!!
ISLAMIC STATE is the only solution
How are you going to sit there and compare our Deen
To the jews and the christians
They only have religions
While Allah (swt) has given us a perfect system
You think were stupid???
Well never buy your abrahamic religion!
Who do you think your fooling kid?
Holding Islamic Conferences with the Jews & Christians?
Brought the kufar to teach us about Islam
Bringing in your priest and your rabbi
How far will you go for their applaud
Twisting the aiyas of Allah to justify
Polluting concepts left us in Misery
Your ideas are weak like the movie siege
Allah Akbar!!!!
Well see who Allah grants the VICTORY!!!
"He is who has sent His
Messenger with guidance and the
Deen of Haq to make it victorious
over all other Deens even though
the mushrikum hate it" [61:9]
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life it seems will fade away
drifting farther every day
all i gotta do is pray
nothing matters, no-one else
simply nothing more to give
there is nothing more for me
i need the end to set me free
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Posted: 02-Nov-2005 at 16:53 |
Puppet to the kufar
So they pay for your new car
Hiding under your mask .
Helping them with their task
Your think Jennet is for free???
Your long beard and turban is the key????
Allah will replace those who dont carry this deen
You may think you fool those brothers around me
But youll never to fool me!
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Either your a slave to what MADE-MAN
Or your a slave to what MAN-MADE
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ok ge
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Posted: 02-Nov-2005 at 16:56 |
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Posted: 02-Nov-2005 at 23:08 |
LOL hehe bring it on,
No fear, No pain do we feel Prophit Mohammed is the seal Only to Allah do we neel Our iman hard lik steel Coz we no Islam is for real
Tekbir...
ALLAHU EKBER -- Allah's da greatst
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Either your a slave to what MADE-MAN
Or your a slave to what MAN-MADE
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Posted: 02-Nov-2005 at 23:09 |
Tovbe Stafirullah
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Either your a slave to what MADE-MAN
Or your a slave to what MAN-MADE
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ok ge
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Posted: 02-Nov-2005 at 23:12 |
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D.J. Kaufman
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