Genetic Map of Near East and Iranics

The second map doesn't seem genetic mapping but phenotypical: a more classical "racial" classification based in physical measurements (skulls mostly).

On the first genetic map, what does this map show? Y-chromosome?, MtDNA?, overall genome? Why the African tag in Baluchistan and what kind of African it means (African populations are as much diverse as those of the rest of the planet or even more)?

Edition: thinking it better, it seems that it describes the 3 main branches of Human genetics as for Cavalli-Sforza's and others' works, taking also the main division of Eurasians in Western (Caucasoids) and Eastern (part of Mongoloids and Amerindians). South Asian branch includes Australians, peoples of the Pacific islands and SE Asians, while the African branch includes all Africans but those of the North.

Yes, it's interesting.


Edited by Maju

Originally posted by Zagros

 

I've seen this map before, but I found it rather inconclusive in terms of my own country.  The "PT" for "Pathan" samples were taken from Karachite, an ethnically mixed city of Sindh Province.  Also, again, the term "Pathan" describes Afghans who have been thoroughly amalgamated with Indian/Punjabi society.

I think to achieve a better sample for Afghans, they need to visit Afghanistan, and do genetic samples of all Afghan tribes.

Originally posted by Zagros It is overall Genome. There is a strong African influence in Baluchistan (it is physically evident), theories vary from Indic Dravidian to Migration during the Hakhamanesh era from East Africa. See, too, these journals: Mt: http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/resolve?AJHG40813PD F Y: http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/resolve?AJHG002418P DF

It's actually MtDNA (purely female lineages). The first link you give says it clearly. And the MK group of strong African lineage is only of coastal Balcuhis called Negroid-Makranites, it is not extrapolable to all Baluchis.

The overall tree is something like:

• African:
• Central-West African:
• East-South African
• Asian:
• Eurasian:
• West Eurasian (Caucasoid)
• East Eurasian:
• North Asian
• Amerindian
  
• South Asian:
• Main Group:
• Pacific islanders
• SE Asians
  
• Papuans
• Australian natives

Asian Indians may have South Asian admixture, specially by maternal heritage, as your map shows, but they sit in the West Eurasian/Caucasian group very clearly (probably due to more paternal heritage from the West).

In the second map, people from Elaz�g (Eastern Anatolian Turks live there) to Uzbekistan are shown as Irano-Afghan. That makes no sense, I dont think a Turkmen from Ashgabad, an Uzbeg from Tashkent and a Turk from Elaz�g would share the very same genes, and none of them are Irano-Afghans for sure.

The people of Eastern Turkey are caracterized as Armenoid. That's because countless Armenians converted to Islam since the Arab conquest of Armenia. In the Ottoman Empire, all Anatolian Muslims, including islamicized Armenians, were considered Turks.

Today, there are many Hamshenians (Hemsinli in Turkish) in Eastern Turkey, and a lot of them relate themselves to the Armenians.

This map seems to be very old. Look at the borders. (I'm talking about the second map)

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