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Aboard the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay, Japan formally surrenders to the Allies, bringing an end to World War II.

By the summer of 1945, the defeat of Japan was a foregone conclusion. The Japanese navy and air force were destroyed. The Allied naval blockade of Japan and intensive bombing of Japanese cities had left the country and its economy devastated. At the end of June, the Americans captured Okinawa, a Japanese island from which the Allies could launch an invasion of the main Japanese home islands. U.S. General Douglas MacArthur was put in charge of the invasion, which was code-named "Operation Olympic" and set for November 1945.

The invasion of Japan promised to be the bloodiest seaborne attack of all time, conceivably 10 times as costly as the Normandy invasion in terms of Allied casualties. On July 16, a new option became available when the United States secretly detonated the world's first atomic bomb in the New Mexico desert. Ten days later, the Allies issued the Potsdam Declaration, demanding the "unconditional surrender of all the Japanese armed forces." Failure to comply would mean "the inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitable the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland." On July 28, Japanese Prime Minister Kantaro Suzuki responded by telling the press that his government was "paying no attention" to the Allied ultimatum. U.S. President Harry Truman ordered the devastation to proceed, and on August 6, the U.S. B-29 bomber Enola Gay dropped an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima, killing an estimated 80,000 people and fatally wounding thousands more.

After the Hiroshima attack, a faction of Japan's supreme war council favored acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration, but the majority resisted unconditional surrender. On August 8, Japan's desperate situation took another turn for the worse when the USSR declared war against Japan. The next day, Soviet forces attacked in Manchuria, rapidly overwhelming Japanese positions there, and a second U.S. atomic bomb was dropped on the Japanese coastal city of Nagasaki.

Just before midnight on August 9, Japanese Emperor Hirohito convened the supreme war council. After a long, emotional debate, he backed a proposal by Prime Minister Suzuki in which Japan would accept the Potsdam Declaration "with the understanding that said Declaration does not compromise any demand that prejudices the prerogatives of His Majesty as the sovereign ruler." The council obeyed Hirohito's acceptance of peace, and on August 10 the message was relayed to the United States.

Early on August 12, the United States answered that "the authority of the emperor and the Japanese government to rule the state shall be subject to the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers." After two days of debate about what this statement implied, Emperor Hirohito brushed the nuances in the text aside and declared that peace was preferable to destruction. He ordered the Japanese government to prepare a text accepting surrender.

In the early hours of August 15, a military coup was attempted by a faction led by Major Kenji Hatanaka. The rebels seized control of the imperial palace and burned Prime Minister Suzuki's residence, but shortly after dawn the coup was crushed. At noon that day, Emperor Hirohito went on national radio for the first time to announce the Japanese surrender. In his unfamiliar court language, he told his subjects, "we have resolved to pave the way for a grand peace for all the generations to come by enduring the unendurable and suffering what is insufferable." The United States immediately accepted Japan's surrender.

President Truman appointed MacArthur to head the Allied occupation of Japan as Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers. For the site of Japan's formal surrender, Truman chose the USS Missouri, a battleship that had seen considerable action in the Pacific and was named after Truman's native state. MacArthur, instructed to preside over the surrender, held off the ceremony until September 2 in order to allow time for representatives of all the major Allied powers to arrive.

On Sunday, September 2, more than 250 Allied warships lay at anchor in Tokyo Bay. The flags of the United States, Britain, the Soviet Union, and China fluttered above the deck of the Missouri. Just after 9 a.m. Tokyo time, Japanese Foreign Minister Mamoru Shigemitsu signed on behalf of the Japanese government. General Yoshijiro Umezu then signed for the Japanese armed forces, and his aides wept as he made his signature.

Supreme Commander MacArthur next signed on behalf of the United Nations, declaring, "It is my earnest hope and indeed the hope of all mankind that from this solemn occasion a better world shall emerge out the blood and carnage of the past." Ten more signatures were made, by the United States, China, Britain, the USSR, Australia, Canada, France, the Netherlands, and New Zealand, respectively. Admiral Chester W. Nimitz signed for the United States. As the 20-minute ceremony ended, the sun burst through low-hanging clouds. The most devastating war in human history was over.

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  Quote Gallipoli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 08:18
Yep good old Missouri
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Sep-2004 at 12:30
war is war...but atomic bomb was one step too much
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  Quote hannibal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Sep-2004 at 03:07

Originally posted by Mulder

war is war...but atomic bomb was one step too much

No atomic bomb,more people will die. Japan was a Crazy War Machine at that time.

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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Sep-2004 at 19:43
I disagree: Atomic Bomb was not nessecery as Japan was already conducting surrender negociations with Soviet Union. Their military was already broken, and the atomic bomb did nothing but kill civillians as Hiroshima and Nagasaki had no military infastructures whatsoever.
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 02:05
               some of the heaviest military industries were located in Nagasaki. Ever heard of the battleship Musashi? She was built in Nagasaki. "No military infrastructure whatsoever" but apparently built the worlds largest and most powerful battleship ever?
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  Quote I/eye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 02:08

and their military wasn't completely broken yet.

and the surrender deal they wanted was conditional surrender. if they got to keep any lands they conquered, think of the suffering of those people..

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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Sep-2004 at 21:55

Hmm... I don't think they were strong enough to keep colonies. A Korean resistence army 10,000 strong trained in China was about to sweep the imperialists off the peninsular when Japan surrendered because of the d nuke.

Burma, Malaysia and other parts of South East Asia was already recaptured.

I don't think munitions/arms factories count as military infastructure...  It has to be something like barracks, command posts, training ground etc.

I was actually talking of only Hiroshima when I said no milit. It was never bombed before because there was nothing to bomb except civs.

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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 08:01
Originally posted by Evildoer

was actually talking of only Hiroshima when I said no milit. It was never bombed before because there was nothing to bomb except civs.

         want me to prove that Hiroshima had just as much military infrustructures?

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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 13:11
the bomb saved both allied and japanese lives int he long run
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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 15:26

Yes, prove it. According to an article I read there were none.

That is debatable.

Plus if Japan had not surrendered, Korean resistance would have taken over Korea and proclaimed a provisional government - then there could be compromise between the commies and other factions, instead of them being pulled apart by pro-Soviets and pro-American elements (notably Rye Bastard Syngman and Kim Bastard Ilsung) that came to power after the troops of these two countries occupied Korea.

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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Sep-2004 at 19:37
sorry, they as a populace were ready to fight for the death and told to do so by thier god-emperor, my sources aremy grandmother as she lived in Tokyo at the time and was trained to use a sharpened bamboo stick against invading Americans....
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 07:49
         well, evildoer....you asked for it....

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  Quote Evildoer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Sep-2004 at 18:01

... I cannot find a thing about military structures in Hiroshima on the sites you posted, except for one written by Truman, which is totally unreliable.

Ha! Truman describes "Hiroshima" as a "military base"...  I thought Hiroshima was mainly a city.

Chief American military leaders including Eisenhower deemed the A-bomb "unnessecery" for victory.

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  Quote MoriheiUeshiba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Nov-2004 at 16:06

I dont believe that america was right in using the atomic bomb, in my eyes is is cowardly that a nation would bomb civiliansjust because they couldnt overcome there army

i do belive though that if they didnt use the atomic bomb then the wars end would have been copmletly different

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  Quote Illuminati Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Dec-2004 at 02:52
^^^^The japanese amry would avhe been defeated totally. There is no doubt about that at all. its a matter of there being more Allied and civilian casualties "Overcoming" the Japanese army than there would avhe been if the bombs were dropped. In the end....it saved more lives by dropping the bombs.

Japan would not have surrendered too easily. They would to the death for every inch of their land. This was became clear to the ALllies after the US invaded Saipan.  When US troops would near Japanese villages...may civilians committed suicide because they feared the Americans.

The United States and Great Britain would ahve had to invade Japan. the casualties would been staggering. and tons upon tons Japanese civilians would have died.

in the long run......way more lives were saved on both sides by deciding to drop the Atomic Bombs.


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