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    Posted: 29-Jun-2005 at 05:09
Outside View: Is $60 A Barrel OPEC's Fault?

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by Youssef M. Ibrahim
Dubai UAE (UPI) June 28, 2005
Last week oil prices hit a record of $60 a barrel. This is virtually unprecedented in many ways and has enormous political and economic consequences for the Arab world, the most immediate of which is the U.S. Congress is attempting to introduce a law that would allow Americans to sue members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries and their citizens.

Such a law could mean freezing of assets of OPEC countries in the United States or measures against Arab officials, including oil ministers and ministries. It is such a serious matter and at the same time ridiculous as high prices have virtually nothing to do with OPEC and mostly the responsibility of oil consumers.

OPEC, which produces less than 40 percent of the 84 million barrels a day the world needs, is not in a position to produce more, but world consumption keeps increasing.

In addition the price of oil is affected by military, political and economic actions of huge consumers, especially those of the United States spreading chaos in the world of oil refining, shipping and production.

The invasion of Iraq alone crippled Iraqi oil production. Simply put, Iraq exported 3.5 million barrels a day to the world before the U.S. invasion. With sabotage, war and insurgency it is exporting only 1.5 million barrels now. In other words: we have lost a full 2 million barrels of oil per day at a time when the world needs it more than ever, hence prices of $60 per barrel.

Furthermore, the continued refusal of the U.S. government, unlike all other governments, especially all those of Europe, to impose taxes on gasoline that would discourage consumption especially by the huge sport utility vehicles so prevalent on the U.S. automobile market has encouraged unrestrained consumption by the one country that is already the world's largest consumer of oil, the United States.

The consumer in Europe has to pay as much as $8 per gallon, much of which is tax that goes back to governments and discourages consumption. By contrast, the consumer in America pays at most $ 2.50 dollar for the same gallon.

The continued chaos, wars, conflicts in Iraq and the Middle East region have nothing to do with OPEC but are contributing a "fear tax" of at least $10 per barrel to oil for which OPEC seems to be getting the blame though it is purely an economic organization not a policymaking body.

The reason for the focus of blame on OPEC is the sight of tons of money coming into its treasuries right now at those high prices. OPEC revenues, for example, are projected this year to reach a total close or more than $450 billion.

If we factor inflation in the value of the dollar the only time such peak in OPEC income occurred only once in 1980, but it retreated quickly ever since. This time the new price will be with us for a long time for reasons that have very little to do with OPEC and everything to do with others, primarily the world's biggest oil consumers including the United States and China. But in between those years, oil prices fell as low as $8 a barrel and hovered mostly under $20 a barrel. OPEC countries without exception are all developing nations in need of money for education, healthcare, development and infrastructure and most rank among the world's poor nations.

Right now, oil prices are being pushed through the ceiling by the advent of huge new consumers of world scale class at the same level of the U.S., especially China and India, and the industrial tigers of Asia. All want more oil. This year alone, China will use 4 million barrels of oil more than last year. That is more than any increase that OPEC may add to the market if it had the capacity.

For all the talking, OPEC does not have the capacity to produce any more oil than the 30 million barrels per day (repeat 30 million barrels per day) it is now pumping. Suing it will not solve this problem. To produce more, OPEC has to invest hundreds of billions of dollars to energize oil fields, discover new ones, put them into production, build the infrastructure of ports and pipelines and this process takes a minimum of 10 years before you can see the new oil flowing. Suing OPEC will not speed this process. In fact it will slow it down.

Finally for all the talking of substitute energy sources -- such as solar energy, hybrid engines etc.-- the world's industrial nations have not made a single effort to subsidize these new energies with infrastructure, subsidies, investments and laws. And in the meanwhile we have yet to find a substitute to oil as the main fuel for transportation. Nor have we found any new huge oil discoveries on the scale of the North Sea or Alaska. More importantly, the West has stopped building refineries because of the maze of laws governing clean fuels which makes refineries a loosing proposition for oil companies. Every state in America has its own requirement for what goes into gasoline which makes producing gasoline a nightmare.

It is easy to make OPEC the villain. But it is in fact a minor player with very little power in this game.

(Youssef M. Ibrahim, a former Middle East correspondent for the New York Times and energy editor of the Wall Street Journal, is managing director of the Dubai-based Strategic Energy Investment Group. He can be contacted at ymibrahim@gulfnews.com)

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We shouldn't cry for OPEC, they're not a nice organisation, they've done everything in their power in the past to sabotage non-OPEC oil industries and development of non-fossil fuels.

Saying that, it's not their fault for short term planning by Europe and North America for not realising developing Asia markets would create the need for alternative fuels, Japan has.

It's also not OPEC member's obligation to produce more fuel. THe more they produce the quicker they deplete. Saudi Arabia has a small population and if anything should cut oil production so generations of it's populous can benefit.

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We must swich to nuclear power. A fusion one.















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Originally posted by Richard XIII

We must swich to nuclear power. A fusion one.


You'll be pleased to hear then that a site for the latest international effort to perfect commercial fusion has been selected in France. Just don't expect results untill 2030-2050.

Seriously people should just look into reducing their dependancy on fuel, most growth in fuel consumption lies with cars. How about encoruaging more compact cities with mixed land use and getting people off their arses and cycling to work. Would help tackle obesity too.
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10 billion dollars project. 5 from EU, and 5 from US Russia S. Korrea and Japan
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  Quote baracuda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jun-2005 at 14:37
Stop all oil going to the U.S. or limit it extremely.. let it use its own resources.. the prices will be more reasonable then..

perhaps they will be more economical instead of being st...d

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  Quote gcle2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 04:21

It's interesting the way the question is phrased. Is $60 a barrel oil OPEC's fault?

Why is it a fault? No matter whose.

It's the result of open market trading in a scarce resource (oil) priced in a generally weakening currency (the US$). In many ways the higher the price goes the better, because it should push down demand, which would be undeniably good not only economically and geopolitically, but for health reasons.

 

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  Quote jiangweibaoye Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 11:10
I agree.  There is no fault.  The price is driven by market factors. 
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  Quote Jalisco Lancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 18:57
$ 60 ?
Venezuela is selling it to Cuba and the caribean islands with the exception of Puerto Rico at $ 20 USD per barrel
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  Quote Mosquito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 19:21
What about mixing petrol with alcohol and plant oil? I think it is already practiced in Europe but to very limited extent. Up to 2 % it doesnt affect cars engine. To use it in bigger proportions there would be a need to redesign the engines. I also belive that it is not a big problem to make engine which will use only plant oil combined with alcohol. Potatoes and rape are cheap. And it would be more ecologic.
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  Quote strategos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jun-2005 at 20:48

Originally posted by baracuda

Stop all oil going to the U.S. or limit it extremely.. let it use its own resources.. the prices will be more reasonable then..

perhaps they will be more economical instead of being st...d

USA has its own oil resources, much is being used as a stockpile for future use..

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