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    Posted: 23-May-2005 at 04:40

Persian site: http://www.chn.ir/shownews.asp?no=21200

It says in Darreh-Shahr region of Elam province in Iran, there are still some people of three villages who live in the caves like ancient cavemen, the ethnicity and language of these people are still unkown and no one knows how long they are living in this region, apparently their costume (especially about women) which is made with the skin of the hunted animals, has become a big problem for Mullahs, so they are being forced to leave their caves and live in the cities and villages!



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 Damn, they've obviously been there for thousands of years.  Now they're forced to leave their home and lifestyle.  I don't know how I'd take that.
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Posts: 8792 		  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2005 at 19:48
What do they look like? I have read some nonsense on pro African sites that Elamites and other advanced pre IE Iranians were black.
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I don't know but I don't think that that they are black!
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Picture please.

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There live blacks in Iran? How, when, where??
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Picture please.

Do not believe in everything you read.

I have no picture but it is certainly reliable because the source is Iranian Cultural Heritage News Agency.

There live blacks in Iran? How, when, where??

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In Turkey you have the Kusky, the villagers can talk Turkish but they also communicate with kind of whistle they make.
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Posts: 410 		  Quote Jazz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2005 at 01:34
Just curious how many people in total we are talking about...

I'll assume that these natives have no pronounced religion - or is that incorrect?
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Originally posted by Kenaney

In Turkey you have the Kusky, the villagers can talk Turkish but they also communicate with kind of whistle they make.

I know Turkish geography and history pretty well, but I never heard of the Kusky.  I'd appreciate it if you explain a little bit about them for me, thanks.
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I dont know if you watch this program on TRT called Gezelim Gorelim?  A while back they showed that village.  It was amazing, they could communicate by whistling not just simple instructions but also have conversations by whistling.  I cant remember exactly what province of Turkey but im sure it was the North East somewhere.  
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A quick google search produced these results

http://www.ling.ed.ac.uk/linguist/issues/12/12-419.html

http://www.trivia-library.com/a/history-and-information-on-l anguages-and-linguistics-part-2.htm

Apparently 80 miles southwest of Trabzon
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Thanks, I'm going to look into this.
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In Greece there are villages that were using whistles for communicating...a complete language.....i didnt know it, i watched an english documentary few weeks ago. They used it for communicating between without the enemy understand them. I dont know if the new generations still use this "language"
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Some pics of Darreh Shahr (Valley City) in Elam:


Ancient Elamite city of Madaktu


An ancient castle


Ancient Bridge of Gavmishan



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that looks beautiful
the first photo reminded me of machu picchu
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