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    Posted: 15-Apr-2013 at 01:09

Once again it should be noted that Mrs T was not voted out of office by the electorate but was pushed out by her so called friends…as Norman Tebbitt put in last week:

“Of course, she was brought down in the end not by the electorate but by her colleagues. Not only is it quite remarkable that she won three elections running-someone else has done that since-what was remarkable was that she polled slightly more votes on the occasion of her third victory, when she had been in office for eight years, than on her first. I regard that as a triumph for her.

My regrets? Because of the commitments that I made to my own wife, I did not feel able either to continue in government after 1987 or to return to government when she later asked me to do so. I left her, I fear, at the mercy of her friends. That I do regret.”

HL Deb, 10 April 2013, c1143

You have to listen to it to hear the scorn and disgust in the words “I left her, I fear, at the mercy of her friends.” Many of whom were sat around him in the Lords.

Also there was a good deal of public anger at what happened to her at the time and still is.  The reason that most politicians (not the most honest or generous of people) are very careful to praise her is that to slang her off is not going to make them popular or get them votes…..the reason is that despite a loud and rather ignorant minority the majority, even her political opponents admired and respected her.

 

Where is the public grief ?  Watch the crowds lining the streets on Wednesday in respectful silence, not the loud, ignorant few.   She beat such people 20 years ago and they still cannot put up a rational argument, to sooth their bruised egos.  Their actions now again prove Maggie was right.

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  Quote Coritani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Apr-2013 at 02:36

John Major became leader almost purely on the say so of Mrs T, had she not backed him he was a none starter, he was selected for one reason to prevent Heseltine from getting in (which frankly would have been a disaster).   Major’s election victory was based almost entirely on the propaganda that he was following Mrs T’s line (something he failed to do) which brought about his defeat.   The 1997 election victory for Blair (as he admits) was based on the fact that he claimed to be her successor (incorrect but what can you expect from a used car salesman type).  Yet you claim no support for her? 

 

Once again it should be remembered that the electorate never rejected Mrs T then or now.

 

Corruption applied to virtually the whole of parliament as the expenses debacle showed (mostly on the left if I recall).

 

I wonder if Lloyd-Webber will donate the earning from the downloading of the Oz song to the conservative party, since he is a major contributor?  Let us be honest the left have never been that bright have they?

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BBC viz CSPAN2 just finished her funeral at St. Pauls. Quite impressive.

Well before I go to work this morning; I'll toast her with a shot of Tiswin.

May she RIP.
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  Quote Coritani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Apr-2013 at 12:46

The funeral was very dignified and very very English, but since it was planned by Mrs T no real surprise.

The planned protests end as a bit of a damp squid, as the crowds kept up a dignified applause as she passed, drowning out the attempts at one point to boo and jeer by a small group.  To be fair the anti brigade were rather subdued.  Perhaps they realise that they are a very small minority and frankly looked foolish.

I must say her granddaughter has a knack for public speaking, wouldn’t it be cool if we one day saw a Thatcher in the Whitehouse?

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Originally posted by Coritani

Let us be honest the left have never been that bright have they?
If that's the case, Coritani, that says a lot about the Tories losing elections to them, and Thatcher's inability to hold on to many seats out of the south-east of England.
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  Quote Coritani Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Apr-2013 at 02:30

The conservatives tended to lose to labour mainly because the vote was split between the Lib-Dems and other centre left candidates, little to do with the left having any appeal.  UKIP (centre right) while having no great support may drain enough votes to split the conservatives vote enabling labour to get in by default.  As Lynton Crosby puts it,   “divided parties don’t win elections”.

Blair and his “New Labour” was a deliberate attempt to move the labour party toward the centre and since it worked, obviously the “left” were marginalised.  Unfortunately for the country while Blair could get himself elected he actually had no real policies to speak of.   His chancellor for the first term simply followed the conservative line then sadly slipped in normal leftist ideas and the result was as in 1979 a bankrupted economy for the conservatives to sort out.  Like I said the left have never been that bright.

The conservatives will now be hoping that a wave of nostalgia for Mrs Thatcher will help them, as are UKIP so it may be counter productive.  Blair is warning the labour party they are slipping to the left again, making them unelectable.   Strange that the left tells everyone that Mrs T was universally hated, yet to get elected it would seem that you have to claim to be her successor. 

Let’s face it socialism in all its guises, failed in the last century.  It was shown to be undemocratic, and totalitarian.

In Britain labour closed more coalmines that the conservatives ever did even up to 2005, yet Mrs T gets the blame, but then the left are not that bright.

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