Topic: Do British schools teach the American Revolution? Posted: 28-Nov-2012 at 13:24
Do they talk about the bravery of men like Washington and Jefferson like American schools do, or is it more of a "damn Yankees" kind of thing, where they are rebels fighting against the mother country ?
British schools teach the American War of Independence, they also teach the Dutch War, the First Zulu War, The First Anglo-Afghan War, the Hundred Years War and a whole host of other military defeats.
However I would bet the British schools teach it a lot more objectively than US ones. From what I understand Americans learn it almost mythically and George Washington in generation or two will have miracles attributed to him, (like the time he walked on water).
The British account offers an alternative perspective, much more in common with all other wars, it's about money and politics. Instead of seeing at a war between two countries, (Britain and the US weren't different countries at the time), it sees it more as the First American Civil War, because both sides were largely made up of Americans. The causes of the war were mostly internal issues and the dispute between the two sides about local issues not even a national one. The main issue of the war was the distribution of the wealth within the US. In the North it was mostly middle class Americans rebelling to fight the wealthy and established landholders because they wanted access to wealth and power too. In the South it was a dispute between the wealthy landowners and the poor as they tried to grab what little the poor had, this is an interesting demographic when you consider the start of the Second Civil War in 1860, the middle classes firmly controlled the north and the landed aristocracy the south. If Britain had won you'de have had an aristocratic north and less poverty in the south.
Edited by Toltec - 28-Nov-2012 at 14:03
Stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?
Well, Toltec is a product of the UK school system. And as usual when it comes to American History, they have it badly skewed.
Welcome back Azadi. A year and a half?? What? Alien abductee?
"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.
George Washington was a pretty mediocre military leader. The few battles and skirmishes in which he prevailed seem to have been guided by
luck, or sometimes by an idea proposed by somebody else. He lost far more battles than he won. Yet the Americans love to romanticise their history and they teach their schoolkids that Washington was a great military leader who could do no wrong.
Edited by Sixteen String Jack - 15-Apr-2013 at 13:34
George Washington was a pretty mediocre military leader. The few battles and skirmishes in which he prevailed seem to have been guided by luck, or sometimes by an idea proposed by somebody else. He lost far more battles than he won. Yet the Americans love to romanticise their history and they teach their schoolkids that Washington was a great military leader who could do no wrong.
If this was a new attitude it might be different, but it's not, it's aimless US bashing, which I am fricking sick of.
If this is all your going to offer, do us all a favor and go someplace else.
"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
Unknown.
George Washington was a pretty mediocre military leader. The few battles and skirmishes in which he prevailed seem to have been guided by luck, or sometimes by an idea proposed by somebody else. He lost far more battles than he won. Yet the Americans love to romanticise their history and they teach their schoolkids that Washington was a great military leader who could do no wrong.
If this was a new attitude it might be different, but it's not, it's aimless US bashing, which I am fricking sick of.
If this is all your going to offer, do us all a favor and go someplace else.
If you can't accept a historical TRUTH that Washington was a bad military leader who lost more battles then he won then it's not my problem.
In fact, the Americans lost more battles overall in the war of independence. Not just Washington.
Edited by Sixteen String Jack - 16-Apr-2013 at 08:35
It was a Civil war so Americans lost&won all those battles SS Jack!Biggest lesson they won all was: No wars on American land!I do not know how,but it works!
It was a Civil war so Americans lost&won all those battles SS Jack!Biggest lesson they won all was: No wars on American land!I do not know how,but it works!
If it was a civil war then it was a British civil war, so the British won all the battles and lost all of them.
It cannot have been an American civil war, otherwise there would have been no British soldiers involved.
Edited by Sixteen String Jack - 16-Apr-2013 at 08:51
Was this imported Civil War from outside?!?That's a right question about it.Exporting civil wars you prevent domestic civil war&riots during crises!Therefore I like this man,Mercenary:
Yes but Britain was expelled out of it!(Your capital&banks?!?)So from this point of view it was exported on American soil by many of them,European countries mostly!
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