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    Posted: 24-Apr-2005 at 00:50
I have recently become very interested in learning the creation/beginnings of the different nations and cultures of the world. For instance, it is obvious that the colder northern nations are caucasian and the warmer nations being negroid and asian. Then there are those nations and cultures that seem to have the influences of each? What about the influences of wars such as the Crusades and how did they affect or influence nations, races, and ethnicitities? And for instance what root clan, tribe, group, etc. do the French, Italians, Germans, and Spainiards have in common if any?

I would appreciate any help and direction that anyone could provide! I have always been interested in gaining a greater understanding of this subject. If I had been able to attend college I certainly would have tried to study this as I have always had a keen interest in history and anthropology. I look forward to everyones input! Thanks! Patrick
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You know, many Asian nations are pretty cold too.
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Originally posted by pdc5210

I have recently become very interested in learning the creation/beginnings of the different nations and cultures of the world. For instance, it is obvious that the colder northern nations are caucasian and the warmer nations being negroid and asian. Then there are those nations and cultures that seem to have the influences of each? What about the influences of wars such as the Crusades and how did they affect or influence nations, races, and ethnicitities? And for instance what root clan, tribe, group, etc. do the French, Italians, Germans, and Spainiards have in common if any?

I would appreciate any help and direction that anyone could provide! I have always been interested in gaining a greater understanding of this subject. If I had been able to attend college I certainly would have tried to study this as I have always had a keen interest in history and anthropology. I look forward to everyones input! Thanks! Patrick

Please read more history and cultural books because your lack of knowledge of ethnic groups and their geographic situations is embarassing!

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Well, Patrik, you could start with this:

L.L. Cavalli-Sforza's Genes, peoples, and languages

It's a bit dated, but I think you will like it, since it's not a too difficultreading, and it's just about the subjects you stated you are interested in - an attempt to reconstruct human pre-history and ancient history via a compared study of genetics, linguistics, archeology and other sources.

Here following some online sellers:

Amazon
University of California Press
Science Daily

 

and finally a summary (not as readable as the book, but it's the best I found online)

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/94/15/7719

 
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I hardly know where to begin; this calls for a whole course in sociology or anthropology.  If I'm going to answer your questions, first I need to ask:  where do you believe we came from originally?  I'm a creationist myself; I believe all of humanity is currently descended from one family that lived 5,000 or 6,000 years ago.  If you believe the same, I'll be happy to show you the webpage I wrote where I try to explain how the children and grandchildren of Noah gave rise to the ethnic groups of today.

If, on the other hand, you subscribe to another theory of human origins, I'll have to let someone else continue from here.  No doubt there are evolutionists in this forum, and those who subscribe to the theories about ancient astronauts; we may even have some catastrophists among us.  Good luck!
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well for starters all western alphabetic script derrives from the Phonecian alphabet.
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All, or just the modern ones?
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I don't think the runes do.
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I thought we were talking about the origins of the various races/ethnic groups of humanity.  The history of writing is a great subject by itself, but how does it fit into this?
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Originally posted by Berosus

I thought we were talking about the origins of the various races/ethnic groups of humanity.  The history of writing is a great subject by itself, but how does it fit into this?


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if it we were created by a god, we'd be so in-bred it's a wonder we're not all dead from some recessive disease.

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I don't think the runes do.

Actually they are descended from Etruscan, which is descended from Phoenician, supposedly. However I believe Ogham script is purely devoid of phoenician interference. God I'd hate to be dysleksic and write in that.

if it we were created by a god, we'd be so in-bred it's a wonder we're not all dead from some recessive disease.

Actually if you go with evolution, every human being is descended from one ancestor female. I believe the jury's out on how many male ancestors, most likely several, we are one of the most promiscuous primates.
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 Root tribe, there is no such thing, for instance France is very diverse racially.
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