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    Posted: 06-Nov-2011 at 18:02

I was just looking around in youtube when I came across this video showing discrimination against Tibetan buddhist who apparently worship an idol called 'Shugden'. I would have never imagined that any sect of buddhism worshipped a god of any sort because that goes against the essence of buddhism, a religion that does not claim belief in deities. Here is the link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyNQD6zGOMw&feature=related

Apparently the belief in this god started about 400 years ago but does anyone know more about this somewhat peculiar sect within buddhism?
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Nov-2011 at 20:36
Buddhism doesn't deny the existence of deities, they just choose not to worship them. Some people, like Jesus, worship the Christian God in addition to holding Buddhist beliefs
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Nov-2011 at 20:58
I'm sorry but we already discussed that in another topic and I don't think you can assert it as a true statement. Similar philosophy, yes, buddhist tenets, questionable. You say that buddhists just choose not to worship them but here we have an example of a fervent reaction against belief in Shugden which seems to me as if it is quite against the ethos of buddhism.
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Nov-2011 at 19:52
Buddhism seems to have many distinct schools of thought. Therevada monks are very strict and conservative, while those who follow Mahayana are more open-minded. Pure Land Buddhism, which traces its origins to the same part of Kashmir Jesus is believed to have visited, believes Amitabha Buddha became a god and created his own paradise where enlightenment can be attained
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2011 at 12:16
So you think there might be a connection between Jesus and Amitabha, or at least people believe so?
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Nov-2011 at 19:39
Absolutely. Perhaps Jesus and Amitabha both learned from an earlier master based in India
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Nov-2011 at 19:14
But that's the problem really, how could Jesus have travelled to India and such a journey not even being mentioned anywhere in the bible...
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Nov-2011 at 19:49
A lot of things aren't mentioned in the bible, or were omitted by later editors. The apocryphal gospels make wild claims: Moses supposedly had growths on his head resembling horns, Judas betrayed Jesus on his instruction, and Mary Magdalene was the 13th Apostle
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  Quote Baal Melqart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Nov-2011 at 15:37
But isn't that why they are called apocrypha and are not part of the christian cannon?
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