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Topic: Bodhidharma Posted: 03-Mar-2012 at 05:44 |
^^ from my observations till now, I would say any tree if falls makes a noise, so a remote tree in remote forest will also make a noise. What was Bodhi's reply ?
P.S: Pallav and Pahlav were quiet confusing words, may be they caused confuiom in Chinese as Bodhidjarma is from Pallav (South India) or Pahlav (Persia).
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Bodhi probably didn't know the right answer either. He asked deliberately unsolveable questions in the hope of opening the minds of his students
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Posted: 07-Jul-2012 at 05:17 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
If a tree falls down in the forest and there's nobody around, does it make a noise?
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Just like the dog this could potentially indicate the master's thought on the student's virtue, or will, if released into the world on their own.
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Posted: 07-Jul-2012 at 07:17 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
It's possible. The Indians developed a new martial art from the Greek pankration which combined kickboxing with wrestling
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That would require an assumption that India had no martial tradition before the Hellenic age.That theory would require a clear comparison of Greek and ancient Bharatha styles, which so far has not been produced. But it is clear in the Mahabharata and the Puranas that many of the popular sports mentioned in the Vedas and the epics have their origins in military training, such as wrestling (maladvandva), chariot-racing (rathachalan), horse-riding (ashvarohana), boxing (musti yuddha) and archery (dhanurvidya). Competitions were held not just as a contest of the players' prowess but also as a means of finding a bridegroom. Arjuna, Rama and Siddhartha Gautama all won their consorts in such tournaments.(from Wikipedia)
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Posted: 12-Jul-2012 at 19:15 |
Every civilisation needs a well-trained military, but did the ancient Indians have a manual for some standardised form of unarmed combat similar to kung-fu or MMA?
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This indigenous martial arts, under the name of Kalari exists only in South India today. Kalarippayat
is said to be the world's original martial art. Originating at least 1,300 years ago, India's
Kalaripayit is the oldest martial art taught today. It is also the most
potentially violent, because students advance from unarmed combat to the use of
swords, sharpened flexible metal lashes, and peculiar three-bladed daggers. More
than 2,000 years old, it was developed by warriors of the Cheras kingdom in
Kerala. Training followed strict rituals and guidelines.
The entrance to the 14
m-by-7 m arena, or kalari, faced east and had a bare earth floor. Fighters took
Shiva and Shakti, the god and goddess of power, as their deities. From unarmed
kicks and punches, kalarippayat warriors would graduate to sticks, swords,
spears and daggers and study the marmas—the 107 vital spots on the human body
where a blow can kill. Training was conducted in secret, the lethal warriors
unleashed as a surprise weapon against the enemies of Cheras.
Father
and founder of Zen Buddhism (called C’han in China), Boddidharma, a Brahmin
born in Kacheepuram in Tamil Nadu, in 522 A.D. arrived at the courts of the
Chinese Emperor Liang Nuti, of the 6th dynasty. He taught the Chinese monks
Kalaripayattu,
Originally posted by Nick1986
Every civilisation needs a well-trained military, but did the ancient Indians have a manual for some standardised form of unarmed combat similar to kung-fu or MMA?
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If you read the Mahabharata, you'll see how important combat was in Vedic society. Why do you think there was a warrior caste?The Kshtriyas It was only the Kshtriyas who had a code of war in the ancient world.Here are three of the many clauses (1) a warrior
in armor must not fight with
one not so clad (2) one should fight only one enemy and cease fighting if the
opponent is disabled, (3) aged men, women and children, the retreating, or one
who held a straw in his lips as a sign of unconditional surrender should not be
killed. As early as as
the 4th century B.C. Megasthenes noticed a
peculiar trait of Indian warfare.
"Whereas among other
nations it is usual, in the contests of war, to ravage the soil and thus to
reduce it to an uncultivated waste, among the Indians, on the contrary, by whom
husbandmen are regarded as a class that is sacred and inviolable, the tillers of
the soil, even when battle is raging in their neighborhood, are undisturbed by
any sense of danger, for the combatants on either side in waging the conflict
make carnage of each other, but allow those engaged in husbandry to remain quite
unmolested. Besides, they never ravage an enemy's land
with fire, nor cut down its trees."
When
a conqueror felt that he was in a position to invade the foreigner's country, he
sent an ambassador with the message: 'Fight or submit.' More than 5000 years ago
India recognized that the person of the ambassador was inviolable. This
was a great service that ancient Hinduism rendered to the cause of international
law. It was the religious force that invested
the person of the herald or ambassador with an inviolable sanctity in the
ancient world. The Mahabharata rules
that the king who killed an envoy would sink into hell with all his
ministers.
Besides, the Kshtriyas have successfully defended India for the past 7000 years of recorded history.Hindu military science
recognizes two kinds of warfare - the dharmayuddha
and the kutayuddha.
Dharmayuddha is war carried on the principles of dharma, meaning here the
Ksatradharma or the law of Kings and Warriors. In other words, it was a just and
righteous war which had the approval of society. On the other hand, kuttayuddha
was unrighteous war. It was a crafty fight carried on in secret. The Hindu
science of warfare values both niti and saurya i.e. ethical principles and
valor. It was therefore realized that the waging of war without regard to moral
standards degraded the institution into mere animal ferocity. A monarch desirous
of dharma vijaya should conform to the code of ethics enjoined upon warriors.
The principles regulating the two kinds of warfare are elaborately described in
the Dharmasutras and Dharmasastras, the epics (Ramayana and Mahabharata), the
Arthasastra treatises of Kautalya, Kamandaka, and Sukra. Hindu
India possessed the classical fourfold force of chariots, elephants, horsemen,
and infantry, collectively known as the Caturangabala.
You can read more at this sites, from where I obtained this information
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_martial_arts http://www.hinduwisdom.info/War_in_Ancient_India.htm
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These codes of conduct are in some ways beneficial to the conqueror: he could use the intact land and peasants of his defeated enemy to produce food and levy taxes
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Posted: 02-Nov-2012 at 21:49 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
The only interpretation i can suggest is that the dogs the master was referring to were the students themselves. One was ready, but the other was not
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There can be no logical explanation/interpretation of koans. Your answer will only get you a whack on the head. The purpose of the koans is to let you think of how the impossible can be possible so desperately that suddenly, you get an epiphany and release (presumably from nirvana but at least the baggages from this world).
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Posted: 02-Nov-2012 at 22:01 |
Originally posted by BoPoMoFo
Originally posted by Nick1986
The only interpretation i can suggest is that the dogs the master was referring to were the students themselves. One was ready, but the other was not
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There can be no logical explanation/interpretation of koans. Your answer will only get you a whack on the head. The purpose of the koans is to let you think of how the impossible can be possible so desperately that suddenly, you get an epiphany and release (presumably from nirvana but at least the baggages from this world). |
Well presuming I buy that.... and I'm not far.... my question to the great Master would be...'what's your take on the undead in general and chinese hoping zombies in specific? Are these aberrant forms of unlife due to really baddddd karma?' Or is there another explanation.
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