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    Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 17:25
Can someone provide me with more detailed information about them? Ethnically, linguistically, culturally...
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Ignore this thread, wrong sub-forum.
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Lors and Bakhtiaris live in an area between Kurdistan (Media) and Khuzestan (Susiana) but Bakhtiaris are in a more southern part, so for some reasons they are more similar to Susians.


Group of Medes in the Persepolis


Bakhtiari man and Woman


A Lor


Chogha Zanbil Ziggurat in Susa

Do you know why this ziggurat is called Chogha? the reason is that it is similar the design on the Cogha (Bakhtiari Coat), of course it is obvious that Bakhtiari coat has been affected by it.


Chogha (Bakhtiari Coat)

I read somewhere that Bakhtiari women's costume is also similar to Susians.


Bakhtiari woman


Bakhtiari Dance


A weaponed man in traditional Lori costume


Achaemenid Spearmen

From the ancient times, Lors were skilled spearmen, the effect can be seen in the Lori Dance.


Lori Dance

More info about Lori Dance: The world`s most brutal dance



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Thanks for the information Cyrus. Some other useful links I found on my own:

The Bronze of Luristan
Old Luri Weavings


Ethnicity:
Originally posted by Darwan Travel

The Lurs are thought to be a division of the ancient Kurds, both tribes being considered true descendants of the Medes.
Originally posted by Sogoul Tour

...the Lurs, the Bakhtiaris, the Guilaks (on the Caspian Coast), the Baluchis, are the original invaders who, in the first millennium BC, swept down from central Asia and settled in various parts of the Iranian plateau. Most of the tribes of central Iran are from pure Aryan stock...


I'll continue adding links later.
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This should add more interest and maybe confusion!

 

Lors are also regarded as Part Persian and part Arab in certain quarters.

Before you all hiss- a dialect exists in Oman which is the most closely related tongue to Lori. My grandmother was one- I couldn't mention this while she was alive!



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Closest ethnicity to Luri is Southern Kurdish. They are Iranic nomads and did not get mixed with others often. They pre-date Arabs by a few thousand years. Today countries on the southern shores of the Persian Gulf are considered to be Arabic, but most of their Arabic identity really came after Islam. There was large number immigrant that moved from Iranian highlands to the southern shores of the Persian Gulf before Islam most commonly during the Sassanid era when the that area was rules by Iranians. You can find traces of Iranic culture through out many of them. That does not mean Lori has come from Oman. Luri is an Indo-European language

 

 
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That is interesting news, but how do you explain the Omani dialectical connection? Any ideas anyone?
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Most probably the same reason people in Mexico speak a dialect of Spanish

 

 
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