Muslim Theology and the Word.

Originally posted by es_bih So, are the extremist Islamics such as those who did many of the bombings on the towers and are often considered terrorists going against the Quran?

Yes; like in other religions, and in Christianity, the ones that transgress against God's commandments are against God. Thus they are going against what the Qu'ran teaches.

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Originally posted by es bih "Moderate Muslims of the West." I have a big problem with this term for technical reasons and for authentic. Does this denote that only, and only Muslims in the West, and only then again those who are "Moderate(What that meeans I have to find out too...)" are somewhat progressive, whereas, all the Muslims in the rest of the World are un-Moderate ? That makes no sense to me, when for example the newer English translation of the Qu'ran is done in part by a Turk... and when the Open Letter I just pasted here earlier is signed in majority by Muslims throughout the Muslim world; who aren't in the "West."

Originally posted by Scorpius We are replying to the topic "Muslim Theology and the world" which defines the main discussion subject. In order to comment on other religions one must be fully educated him/herself with their scriptures. But lucky for us, the diversity of the forum gives us this opportunity within itself like the versus you posted from Bible.   You are talking about people, that is what I am trying to show you here. You are not talking about Islam. The things people do in the name of Islam does not define Islam, you should understand this first.

I am having difficulty understanding the reasoning behind this request . It is good to discuss that for a better understanding of the concept before you build things on top of it.

No, no Scorpius you misunderstand me. I'm only using that definition in regards to the assertions in the differences between Christianity and Islam, because if you are using all versions of Christianity to define it's theology you must also use all versions of Islam.

Of course I would prefer to take the purist source for theology. And I have no problem with your definition of a "true muslim" as opposed to a "muslim poseur" however if your talking about discrepansies between Christian teaching as applied to all who claim to be Christians we must acknowledge the discrepansies between differing Islamic theologians.

We are replying to the topic "Muslim Theology and the world" which defines the main discussion subject.

....actually the topic I wished to address is Muslim Theology and the Word. Meaning the 2nd person of the Trinity, also known as Jesus Christ or the Son. Since I wanted to see if Allah is "one thing" like a brick wall (made of the same parts) or "one thing" like a car engine (made of different parts). And depending on which response to try to make that definition come to terms with the concept of the Incarnation.

You are talking about people, that is what I am trying to show you here. You are not talking about Islam. The things people do in the name of Islam does not define Islam, you should understand this first.

The topic of the post is what defines Islam. The side tracked topic we got ourselves on due to Mughaal's post is what defines a Muslim. Slightly different but for our purposes worlds apart. I believe we have got the point across about the second part, hopefully we can refer to the first part.

And thanks again for the discussion!