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    Posted: 02-May-2007 at 01:04
Originally posted by Joinville

What the hell is a "biological African" here? What is not a biological African? Geographical Africans seem entirely unproblematic in the context. But "biological"?



What does it mean to be "biologically African" ?

"The various genetic studies usually suffer from what is called categorical thinking, specifically, racial thinking. Many investigators still think of "African" in a stereotyped, nonscientific (nonevolutionary) fashion, not acknowledging a range of genetic variants or traits as equally African. The definition of "African" that would be most appropriate should encompass variants that arose in Africa."

The Geographical Origins and Population Relationships of Early Ancient Egyptians
Professor S.O.Y. Keita
Department of Biological Anthropology
Oxford University

Professor A. J. Boyce
University Reader in Human Population
Oxford University
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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2007 at 09:12
But then again, all humans came from Africa. In fact, there are still many biologists who believe that all "races" or phenotypes actually appeared in Africa first. So we are all "biologically African".
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  Quote hugoestr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2007 at 09:23
Originally posted by X-Ras

Originally posted by hugoestr

X-RAS has not read the article yet. Why don't we give him or her some time to do so?


I read that article years ago and saw a critique of in Richard Poe's "Black Spark, White Fire" book, so I'm well familiar with it. Making straw attacks on Afrocentrism isn't going to change the fact that ancient Egyptian civilization was African and its people were indigenous, biological Africans.


So please share your thoughts the article. :)
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  Quote Joinville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2007 at 11:50
Originally posted by Decebal

But then again, all humans came from Africa. In fact, there are still many biologists who believe that all "races" or phenotypes actually appeared in Africa first. So we are all "biologically African".
Quite. Or to get at the problem from another angle: If so, what would it mean to be "biologically European" by comparison?
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  Quote Carcharodon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-May-2007 at 05:42
Egypt was neither black or white, it was just Egypt. Every culture must be judged in its own right, not just lumped together in broad categories.
 
And if one likes to name people after their colour the egyptians could be called brown since most of them had/has a skin-colour in some brown shade.
 
The notions of Black and White is just modern political categories that can not be applied on ancient cultures.
 
As for the matter if Egypt was an african civilisation: yes it was, Egypt lies in Africa and they received and gave influences to its other african neighbours. It also received and gave influences to their neighbours in southern Europe and the middle east.
 
As a matter of fact: most culures (if they are not completely isolated) is an amalgam of their own indigenious traits and of influences from other cultures. In the end the differnt traits melts together and forms a unique culture.
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