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    Posted: 20-Jan-2007 at 22:39
Originally posted by Knights

I'm actually quite enjoying researching the origins of continental/national names! Thumbs%20Up Thought I'd add some more:

Antarctica comes from the Greek word 'Antarktikos' which means 'opposite to the Arctic'. (Greek: ανταρκτικός)


Im glad you liked the idea man we're all helping each other out like how its supose to be.....Smile


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'Arctic' of course is based on the constellation Ursa maior ('Great Bear', arktos).

Another one: the name 'Italy' (Italia) comes from an Italic word for 'calf' and means as much as 'calf country' (Oscian/Umbrian Viteliu).
 


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The Andes, the mountains range that extend like a backbone across south America, from Colombia to Austral Chile, and that is the longest range of mointains and the second highest in the world, was name after the spanish name "Andenes".
 
When the Spanish arrived to the Inca Empira they saw large plantations in the sides of the mountains. The natives developed its agriculture in flat platforms protected by walls of stones, that formed huge stairs on the mountain sides. Platform in Spanish is "Anden", and with the times the plural "Andenes" was shortened to "Andes".
 
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Originally posted by Lepidodendron

'Arctic' of course is based on the constellation Ursa maior ('Great Bear', arktos).
Another one: the name 'Italy' (Italia) comes from an Italic word for 'calf' and means as much as 'calf country' (Oscian/Umbrian Viteliu).

Interesting with Arktos - do you think the Brown Bear's Scientific name is derived or connected to the constellation? 'Ursus Arctos' is the Brown Bear. The Ursa part could be connected to the 'Ursus' (Genus).

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Originally posted by Knights


Interesting with Arktos - do you think the Brown Bear's Scientific name is derived or connected to the constellation? 'Ursus Arctos' is the Brown Bear. The Ursa part could be connected to the 'Ursus' (Genus).

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The constellation is named after Callisto, who was changed into a bear by Artemis. The scientific name is not connected to it as far as I know - ursus and arctos is simply two ways (Latin/Greek) of saying 'bear'. So Ursus arctos would mean 'your average bear'.
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Alba was the ancient and the modern gaelic name for Scotland though initially Alba (Albion) stems from a celtic name for the whole of Great Britain.
         So theoretically are we peeps living in the UK AlbaniansLOL
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Turkey was called in the medievals by seljuks as "land of rum" or "rum" alone, Seljuks who ruled anatolia where referred as "Saltanate of rum".
We do call Greeks outside Greece as rums, cypriots included.

China is called by Turkic people as Khitay.
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Originally posted by Lepidodendron

As to Europe, I always understood that this wordhad itsoriginin the Phoenician language (from erebh, meaning 'west').


"Europe" comes from the Greek mythology character Ευρώπη-Europe which derives from the words eurys(broad) and ops(face) meaning broad faced.


With the same second word(ops) and "eth"=burn Greeks called the Abyssinians as "Ethiops" meaning "burnt faced"... (sourse )

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Anatolia: Anatol in greek or Anatola, literally "rising of the sun", East.
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Originally posted by Patrinos

Originally posted by Lepidodendron

As to Europe, I always understood that this word had its origin in the Phoenician language (from erebh, meaning 'west').


"Europe" comes from the Greek mythology character Ευρώπη-Europe which derives from the words eurys(broad) and ops(face) meaning broad faced.


With the same second word(ops) and "eth"=burn Greeks called the Abyssinians as "Ethiops" meaning "burnt faced"... (sourse )


I stand corrected againDeadGeekI always thought it came from "Europos". Thanks akritas.
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Originally posted by Patrinos

Originally posted by Lepidodendron

As to Europe, I always understood that this word had its origin in the Phoenician language (from erebh, meaning 'west').


"Europe" comes from the Greek mythology character Ευρώπη-Europe which derives from the words eurys(broad) and ops(face) meaning broad faced.


With the same second word(ops) and "eth"=burn Greeks called the Abyssinians as "Ethiops" meaning "burnt faced"... (sourse )
 
Certainly, but this might be a case of 'popular etymology' (Volksetymologie) applied afterwards. Remember that the character Europa was from Phoenicia, so there may be a Middle-Eastern connection. As I understood it, the origin of the name is not entirely clear, and both options are possible.
 
The etymology of Aithiops on the other hand is more straightforward, since it refers to a physical feature of the people involved.
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yes albania has been called shqiperi (the land of eagles)
also illyria/arbania/arberia
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Interesting. From sources on the internet I understand that captain Cook, in an attempt to give Nieuw Zeeland its proper English name, named it after the Danish isle more or less by accident, as some kind of a transcription error?
 
It has never been named after the Danish island. The a is just a transcription thing. Useless fact: it's Nya Zeeland in Swedish while the Norwegians and Danes use the a.


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It's interesting that nearly everyone seems to be referring to the 'original name' of a country as the one given to it by its conquerors. (That includes of course using 'Hellas' for the Greek peninsula and archipelago.)
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North America was originally called Turtle Island.  (And still is by some people who take the broader view!)
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Hungary/Ungarn: it is developed in slavian from Onogur (Ten ogurs)
hungarians: wegiers, magarski (slavish), from hungarian: magyar, originated from magy (man, like in mansi -a finno-ugrian tribe) and er; both means man, or people.
Hungary: Magyarorszg (hun) : Magyar land, but orszg comes from uruszg, it means ruled (by a lord) lands, or ruled things.
 
Names of Hungary in the past 1000 years (some were just classical remainings from the past owners): Scythia, Pannonia, Hunnia, Avaria, Turkia, Hungaria.
 
Names of the hungarians: magyarok (mogerek, megyerek, magyeriek), paions (greek(byzantine) name), turks (greek name), pannons, huns etc.
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