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    Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 13:44


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You mean probably Mehmet II el-Fatih (1451-81) and not Mehmet I Celebi (1413-1421).
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 13:52

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so what is the aim of topic, what will be we discuss?
 
This is not an art forum, but a history forum. Why do you sent pictures here, without comments?
 
By the way, That army is not look like  turkish, It looks like as arabic army.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Oct-2006 at 15:25
Originally posted by Mortaza

so what is the aim of topic, what will be we discuss?
 
This is not an art forum, but a history forum. Why do you sent pictures here, without comments?
 
By the way, That army is not look like  turkish, It looks like as arabic army.
 
Ne Arabı Dostum Elinde Lalilahe illah Bayrağı Olan Arapmı Olur Canım
Ayrıca Giyim Tarzları Arablara Benzeye Bilir Fakat Onemli Olan Resimleri Ve Giysileri Değil 2000 Yıla Yakın Yaşayan Bizans'ı Tarihe Gmmesidir.. Kanları Canları Trktr Ayrıca Bu Temsili Bir Resimdir
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Pusu Kardes, i dont wan you to get in trouble so i have translated you reply to fit in with the regulations of the site.
 
"Arab? what are you talking about my friend?. Just becuase one has the Shahada (la ilaha illalah...) flag does not make one an Arab. Their costume may be Arabic but the picture nor their dress is not important, the burial of the nearly 2000 year old Byzantine's is.. Their blood and life is Turkish, this is just one image"
 
I personally agree with Pusu that it does not matter about their attire, although in saying this many of the soldiers in the back holding the flags seem to be wearing a costume more similar to that of Berbers.
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This Map looks like Saladin entering Jerulasalem
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what is the catholic priest doing there?
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Originally posted by Turk Nomad

This Map looks like Saladin entering Jerulasalem


This painting is drawen by an european artist.Europeans know Turkish culture similar as Arab culture not for showing us look like Arabian they are uninformed.
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Edited by ok ge due to insensitive and provokative language use against another religion. Please excercise more sensitivity with other forumers.


Edited by ok ge - 28-Oct-2006 at 11:38
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Originally posted by last_janissary

he was going to hell
 
hmm interesting.

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I don't think I get it.

In 1453, Ottomans had a small kingdom in Western Anatolia.

They had no access to deserts of Middle East or Africa.

So I doubt there were black people among the ranks of their army.

Originally posted by Turk Nomad

This map looks like Saladin entering Jerulasalem

Yeah, I think that's the case.


    

Edited by Feanor - 26-Oct-2006 at 09:44
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I'd like to remind a certain member that Art is HISTORY and plays a very important role, historical art is very interesting, should be discussed, many have messages and strories going on which the artist has mapped into the painting.

Also, we fail to realise that in that era especially the middle-east, was very cosmopoliton, they were not alien to Black or Blonde peoples. 


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 Here's a very similar one and also painted by a 19th century European artist. Both painters surely mostly relied on imagination and artistic license, rather than insisting on historical authenticity.
 
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This belongs to Ottoman Palace artist Fausto Zonaro.
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....Edited by ok ge,
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Someone have translated one of your posts in a different thread, yet you continued to post in non-English. Consider this an unofficial warning. The next non-English post of yours will result in a warning.


Edited by ok ge - 29-Oct-2006 at 03:22
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Bu senin dediklerin değildir,arap kıyafetleri de mslmanlığı simgelemez,araplığı simgeler.Temsili resimleri izen ressama sormak gerek...Ama burda bahsettiğin değildir ama...
 
 
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