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Imperatore Dario I
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Topic: LOL, Greek fights against Romanization Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 09:49 |
Hehe, I just found this article
that was part of a Hellenic website, talking about Magna Grecian and
Eastern Roman (Hellenistic-Roman) civilization in Southern Italy, and
how Greek-Italians should fight against the North's Romanization and
"destruction of culture in Southern Italy." And I mean in the present
day. Little does he know that Magna Grecian civilization is different
than Greek civilization of Greece.
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The 8th
century BC brought the beginning of the Greek invasion to Italy. They
came from all over Southern Greece, settling on the southern coasts
(from Campania to Apulia) and eastern and southern Sicily. The term
'Magna Grecia', which was giving to the region describes a population
and civilization, but not a political reality. Among the first to
settle on the Italian coasts were the Achaeans (of Dorian origins) who
founded towns like Taranto, Metaponto, Posidonia, and Sibaris. Locrians
and then Chalcidians followed them from Euboea who founded Naxos,
Zancle and, after the occupation of Pitecusa, Cumae and Neapolis
(Naples) in Campania. The Corinthians founded Siracusa and Croton,
still in the 8th century BC, and the Megarians Megara Hyblaea on the
Gulf of Augusta. These Hellenic Colonies would expand all over Southern
Italy and ally themselves with different kingdoms back in the
Motherland. Taking part in different wars between the Hellenic
City-States.
By 500 BC Greek Sicily and Magna Graecia began to
decline, probably because of malaria and endless warfare among the
colonies. Only Tarentum (now Taranto) and Cumae remained individually
very significant. The Rest of the Hellenic population would end up
being romanized.
Hellenism wouldn't grown again in Magna
Grecia until Hellenic refugees took to the region once more to get away
from invading Arabs and Slavs in the 7th Century. This helped
reinforced Hellenism in the region once more. Also the Rule of the
Byzantine Empire in some parts of Southern Italy until 1071 would also
add to the Re-Hellenization of its people.
Orthodoxy itself
has strong traditions in the Italian peninsula and flourished in
Calabria, Pulgia and Sicily at one time. It was after the Norman
Conquest in the 11th and 12th centuries that the Orthodoxy slowly
diminished, but with the conquest of the Ottomans in the East would
change all this. Immigrants from Epirus, Peloponeese, Crete, Cyprus,
Macedonia, Asia Minor, and the entire Hellenic world fled to the
Kingdom of Two Sicilies. Since then the Orthodox population has gone up
and down until recent days.
It is estimated that the faithful
of the Archdiocese of Italy, together with students from Greece, number
about one hundred eighty thousand (180,000) people. The Greek Orthodox
living in the country is an almost exclusively Italian citizen of a
high social, economic and cultural level. There are also a few 1,000
people still speaking the old language of Griko to this day in the
regions also.
With this in mind it is up to us to give our all
to the rebirth of Magna Grecia and Hellenism in Italy. We must spread
Orthodoxy and Griko amongst the population of Southern Italy so that
they can return to their roots and fight against Northern Italy, which
wishes to destroy them and their ancient culture.
http://enotitanpride.tripod.com/ellada/id8.html | |
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Let there be a race of Romans with the strength of Italian courage.- Virgil's Aeneid
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ihsan
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Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 11:21 |
Nationalists are hilarious
(this goes for everyone)
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Roughneck
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Posted: 17-Aug-2004 at 22:16 |
Can that be edited? The white text is very hard to read.
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Mast
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Posted: 18-Aug-2004 at 04:51 |
Not if you use the dark skin.
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rider
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Posted: 18-Aug-2004 at 05:06 |
well i use the light skin and it is difficult to read but i got it thru...funny
so there should be a civil war in italy...
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TheDiplomat
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Posted: 18-Aug-2004 at 05:36 |
LOLL Pan-Hellenists on duty
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Yiannis
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Posted: 18-Aug-2004 at 09:05 |
These are ultra right fascists. Where on earth did you managed to un-dig this sh*t-for-brains site?
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Imperatore Dario I
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Posted: 18-Aug-2004 at 16:42 |
Originally posted by Yiannis
These are ultra right fascists. Where on earth did you managed to un-dig this sh*t-for-brains site? |
I was looking for some info on Magna Graecia, and some possible impact by the Italic cultures on that civilization, but instead I got that. Boy do I hate Panists. Does this idiot see Italians trying to regain Libya, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, and extend her influence to South America's huge Italian population? But it's funny. Anyway, no offense, he's no threat, not even the Greek military could take that area by force.
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Posted: 12-Jan-2005 at 13:42 |
All this talk about Romanization and Hellens is missing one point.
Present time Italy and Greece have as much to do with antique Greeks
and Romans as French with Gaules. These countries were submerged under
barbarian migration. I believe Longobards (Lombards) where the main
culprits in Greece and Rome. With Goths playing a role in Rome.
Migrating people literally submerged locals and what we know now as
France, Italy and Greece is the result. As local population had a much
stronger culture this resulted in the fact that germanic languages of
invaders were modified and resemble respectively Greek and Latin more
than German.
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