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tats, are the tats are descendant of khaz

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    Posted: 09-Sep-2006 at 07:58
i have a burning question on tat or mountain jews in caucasus ,are they descendant  from khazar,are they speak the same language as other jews ,thank you .

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  Quote oghuzkb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Sep-2006 at 17:16
This is quite interesting, we also have this name.While southern Uighurs just converted to Islam, northern uigurs stayed in a branch of buddisim.At that time southerns used to call northerns as Tat(plural---Tatlar ).We have some folk songs which describe the wars between Tats and muslim Uighurs. In modern Uighur language Tat means dead body of animals.

Could someone explain why those mouantain jews called Tat?  thanks
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  Quote barbar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Sep-2006 at 12:36
Isn't it 'Tap" instead of "Tat"?

We still have a saying "Tiriktap"--alive but dead, means someone just rely on others in living.

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  Quote oghuzkb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Sep-2006 at 07:58
I am sure they were called as Tat,here are some lines:
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Keldi manga Tat,
Emdi eyttim yat.
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The Tat are an Iranian ethnic group from the Caucasus. The Tat of Aran (Azerbaijan Republic) number about 22,000. The majority of the Tat of Dagestan (est. less than 15,000) live in Kaitag, Magaramkend, Derbent and Makhachkala. A small number have settled in North Caucasia - Gorny and Nalchik. The Tat descend from Persian tribes that moved into the Caucasian mountains in the 5th and 6th centuries.

The Tat of Arran live in the mountain valleys of the north and north-eastern parts of Azerbaijan, along the Russian border, with important concentrations in Krasnaya Sloboda and Oguz. A large number also live in and around Baku. The Tat include three groups: Muslim (90% Shia), Christian and Jewish Tats - the latter also known as Mountain Jews. There's some debate on the origin of the Jewish Tat, with some defending that they are not Tat at all but simply Jews that took the Tat language, while others argue that they are the descendants of Tats that converted to Judaism.

The Turks originally coined the term 'Tats' to designate settled groups of non-Turkic origin. Alternative designations for the Tatsare 'Tatians' and 'Dagchufuts'. Muslim, Christian and Jewish Tats speak a unique dialect of Persian (so Indo-European) language known as Tati. Because no alphabet exists for Tati, they use Azeri for their written and literary language.

Although the Tat have been an agricultural people from the beginning of their history, they have also developed a strong urban community. Farmers living in the valleys raise wheat, barley, maize, grapes and cattle. Those living in mountain villages raise sheep, bulls and buffaloes. In the north-eastern area, communities consisting of 80 to 120 households are located in mountain settlements built on ledges. The availability of water determines the villages' location, each village contains a religious building, a bath area, a well, as well as family dwellings.

The rural Tat usually live in one or two story homes, which are constructed of rectangular shaped natural stones cemented with clay mortar. The houses feature flat roofs and front porches supported by wooden pillars. Families living in two-story homes use the upper floor for living quarters and the lower floor for working space. The Tat are considered a closed society because they insist on maintaining ethnic purity by allowing marriage only within the tribe. It can be argued that, for such a small ethnic group, this is the only strategy for survival.

Originally based on an article by Travel-images.com, licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License, used with permission


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