Germanic & Turkic

I think every German is half Turkish and every Turkish is half German. This relationship goes way backn more than the Ottoman-German relationship at the last days of the Ottoman empire.

There are many debates over where the Germans descendant from. Some people say they come from Tibet which is also the first land of the Turks.

Some say they come from Central Asia which is again the land of the Turks. Many scholars also consider Huns Germanic and Turkic. So during the migration period Turks came into contact with the Germans.

Indo-European theory says that Indo-Europeans may have descendant from Turkey and spread throughout Europe and elsewhere. The Hittites are known as the first Germanic people ever who lived in modern day Asia Minor. So their descendants may still live today. And many Turks who inhabit Anatolia have blond hair. This is not an usual Turkish feature. I think it is more than just a coincidence.

When it comes to WW2, Turks were pressured by both Allies and the Axis to jin the war. Its strategic location could benefit the side if Turks joined the war.
Finally they realized that they could win the Aegean islands if they helped Allies. They did join the Allies in the late February but it was too late.
    

Edited by Celestial - 08-Oct-2006 at 20:21

every swede is half chinese and every chinese is half swede.

Originally posted by Celestial Some people say they come from Tibet which is also the first land of the Turks.

The only people I know of who believed that were the nazis.

Originally posted by Celestial I think every German is half Turkish and every Turkish is half German.

Originally posted by Bulldog or the xiong nu could be of tocharian descent Goodness, replying to one ridiculous comment with another is not the right way about things. German-Turkic relations, mixing and so on is minimal. The only historic relation would be the Huns ruling over some Germanic tribes, maybe mixing with some but that's about it. Ottoman-German relations was not a long relation and it didn't include populations mixing. Today the couple of million of Turks in Germany are the only real strong contact between the two people in history.

Edited by xi_tujue - 10-Oct-2006 at 12:06

every human is half monkey and every monkey is half human.

I feel quite sure there's some kind of genetic link between Swedes and Turks lost so far back in the mists of time we have no longer any real ken for it. I.e. they're all human beings.

However if we stick to recorded, non-speculative, history Sweden and the Ottoman Empire found themselves on excellent speaking terms beginning in the late 17th century.

The common denominator was spelled "Russia". Just like His Most Catholic Majesty the King of France allied himself with the Sultan already in the 16th c. in order to contain their common Habsburg enemy, Sweden and the Ottomans found they had much in common fighting the Russians. In fact, Sweden, France and the Ottomans made up a fairly stable trinagle of major powers confronting the Habsburgs, the Russians, the English more or less directly.

The largest and most important permanent Swedish diplomatic mission was the one to Constantinopolis. Being Legation Priest there was an important stepping stone for any young ambitious clergyman intent on an exalted carreer in the Prostestant Church of Sweden. The end result was that all through the 18th c. Sweden had a string of Archbishops, heads of the Church of Sweden, who also spoke excellnt Turkish!

And Charles XII was such a fan of Turkish culture he gave two brand new frigates Turkish names.

Originally posted by Styrbiorn And Charles XII was such a fan of Turkish culture he gave two brand new frigates Turkish names.

And the Swedes learned how to eat dolma, as in "k�ldolmar".

And we still occasionally describe something as a "kalabalik".

...and every turk is spanish and every spanish is chinese.Also every arab is mayan and every chinese is macedonian..oh!wait a minute,I am high again I think