Muslim women

Originally posted by morticia Originally posted by Vivek Sharma I support both Hisbolla & HerBolla       I support HerBolla first!

I would do that too, if given a preference. The reson being that HerBolla would be more faithfull & will not forget the support.

Well lets not take word by word. The spirit of the discussion is that these women are discriminated against. I have heard of a HUDOOD law in Pakistan where a raped women has to furnish four male eye witnesses to prove her rape, who should explicitly say that they saw this women being raped while these four gentleman stayed there enjoying a porno movie. 

If she does'nt proveide this four eyewitnesses, she becomes the accused, If the men say they saw her being raped, they would be asked , why they did'nt help her ?

DO you get a clear idea of this tragic situation for the rape victim ?

Originally posted by OSMANLI Maziar, thanks (i guess ) for telling us a bit about Persian culture regarding the both genders and contraception. However this maybe a Persian tradition but do not get it mixed up with Islam.

Edited by Maziar - 20-Sep-2006 at 16:04

Originally posted by OSMANLI O here we go again, once again Vivek is bashing Pakistan. The spirit of the topic is not about the discrimination of women but it started off as praising Muslim women. Also Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia or any other 'Muslim' state is not Islam nor is it anyway near its rulings.   Vivek why dont you mention that it is the Indian culture which is the reason for this cultural oppresion of women in Pakistan?   Please people if you dont know enough about Islam then dont fill this topic about rumours or what this or that country has done.   Those that actually want to know the truth about gender equity in Islan then please read the following e-book by Jamal al-Badawi Phd:   http://www.iad.org/PDF/GEI.pdf

Dear, I don't now why you get this feeling on perfectly logical progression of posts or how do you claim that this is off topic.

If there is something that is not good, we should admit it & not try to hide behind pseudo masks or theories. You say I am bashing somebody wihtout commenting on the Hudood law which is what prompted your post. Does'nt the hudood law exist ? Do you wish to say my thinking is hypothetical.

I never shy away from admitting the weaknesses of ourselves. In fact I had started a thresd titled & Highlighting the absence of a ferocious military culture in India. I am a fervent opposer of the caste system in India, both in Hindus as well as muslims.

I had criticised sati, I am against the practice of Jauhar in which tens of thousands of women & children are made to committ sucide in India at a go, at a single place.

Osman, You should appreciate that nobody is perfect. If there is something bad, admit it. And if bad or adverse things happen to be associated with a particular word or words again & again, it's not anybody's fault.

And another thing is what you might consider as good may be considered as bad by others. for example keeping women in Burkhas may be considered good by muslim men, but by all liberatd women all over the developed world, it would be considered a violation of the huma  rights of women. Similiar is the case of Hudood law, which may be a perfect law for some Muslims. but for most developed / civilised people, it will be a case of gross injustice & attroicity on women to go through such a inhuman tyranny.

I agree what the world needs is more Lezbollah and a lot less Hezbollah.

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