The Indus Valley Civilisation

This is all bullsh*t.

 

Brahui speak a Dravidan language, but they are descended from Turkic-Iranian tribes. They have 55% maternal Euro DNA, and about 20% Indian M haplo, they were probably part of the Elamite-Dravidan connection that spanned South Western Asia. This is a Brahui shepherd.

 

 

Pakistan might be a new name but the name "India" is also relatively new, it was given to you by your British masters, it is derived from the word "Hind" which was given to South-Asia by my Arab brothers in Islam, these names are derived from the name of the River Indus which is entirely in Pakistan.

 

Both India and Pakistan are relatively new states carved out of the British Empire so India is not the "original" or "big daddy", in the past lots of different empires ruled our area and enhanced and made South-Asia what it is today but India has no more right to them than Pakistan.. What you refer to as "Ancient India" and the "Indian Subcontinent" I refer to as "Ancient South-Asia" or "South-Asian Subcontinent".

 

We Pakistanis are proud Muslims now but that doesn't change our nationality, just as the Romans and Greeks were still Roman and Greek after embracing Christianity, we're still South-Asian. My own people are a amalgam of Rajput and Pashtun tribes but I don't belive in the discrimanatory caste system of Hinduism because I'm a Muslim not a Pagan Hindu anymore.

 

Presentday state of India can't claim much as it's heritage, an interesting thing you mentioned is Pakistanis not being a 100% Dravidian, well that's true we're an amalgam of different races which inhabited the Pakistan regions so we claim all the history of our land as our heritage including the Indus Valley Civilisation.

 

Another part of our heritage is the Aryan Vedic Civilisation which gave us our Sanskritic languages (Urdu/Hindi, Punjab etc.), Indians can't really claim any heritage from them either because even though you might speak their Aryan languages and follow an adultered form of their religion the vast majority of you Indians don't have an ounce of Vedic Aryan blood in you, you are 100% Dravidian (including you Rajasthani Rajputs) and just adopted their ways (rpoved by recent genetic studies), whilst we Pakistanis (and a small minority of Indians from bordering northwestern India) are descended from the Vedic Aryans. So we Pakis can claim our country's heritage from all those who inhabited our region as we're descended from them all.

 

 

 

IVC was known to us, before it was excavated by Banerjee or Marshal and at that none bothered about it. Illegal excavations have been going on since then, and none bothers or even the friends who carry out "IVC for Pakistan only" type propaganda keep quite. When material evidences are disappearing, what we are going to claim?

 

For example, the assertions like "Indus Valley lies in Pakistan, and the people of Pakistan have always lived there", etc., have been only to rouse passion. If we take each word, one cannot come to any conclusion - take for example the "Indus" itself. The river waters are shared by India and Pakistan. Like waters, can we fight for eastern IVC and western IVC just like eastern waters and western waters?

 

Culture, tradition, heritage, civilization etc., have been common to all, and facts are facts.

 

How many are not reading this site is another story and therefore, by conducting any poll in this regard would be a farce, as selected people / friends could be brougfht here and vote. But this type of propaganda cannot have any place in historical research or those who work for the benefit of humanity.

 

Incidentally, I request that the participants in these columns should provide minimum details about them - say nationality, real name so that the dialogue would be meaningful, as otherwise, one might feel that, we are dealing with same persons coming under different names in various columns of AE, dealing with the same subject matter one or the other harping on the same point.