Martial Law Declared as Nearly 150 Die in China NYTIMES

you wrote, "You accuse of me trivializing death. Doesn't that make you as accusing as babyblue, but from another standpoint?"

    I'm certainly accusing you of something.  I wasn't critiquing babyblue for being accusative, but for trivializing death.

    you wrote, "What do you expect the CCP to do?"

    I don't understand why you bring this up.  I didn't accuse CCP for anything.  racial tension is a social reality.  I didn't say the CCP isn't dealing with it.  I didn't make one comment about CCP trying to cover up anything.  I was only concerned that you are reacting to someone merely reporting it.

Peace,

Michael

11-7-2004

You have no love for my government? Great. That's what I wanna hear. The DPP is a bloody incumbent party of liars who have no real concern about the welfare of the Taiwanese people. The opposition is still powerful enough to prevent a single party dictatorship, though, which gives me some form of respite.

The issue about Taiwan is not about independence, though the DPP would have you think otherwise. I actually treat this news as a provocating article designed to drive wedges between the Chinese people. Unrests are definitely bound to happen since everything's happening so fast in China, and China is not a small island like Taiwan. We have our share of certain unrests and demonstrations about the 319 incident. The world is calling our election fraudulous and a big joke. We had an occassion in which several kidnappers managed to escape from an encirclement by over 300 armed policemen. What joke is this? We also bowed to every wish of the last one of them and gave him a final audience with his wife etc when he demanded it. In China things are getting done. In Taiwan we're still arguing about things and throwing cups at each other. I would not be too surprised if 5 years down the row WSR are getting bashed by BSR. But hey, at least these labellers still refer to Taiwan as a Sheng and not a country.

People in Taiwan are really smart but lack wisdom, which makes them into some of the scariest and most moronic. Look at our department of foreign affairs. I can already foresee some positive futures in Taiwan getting increased diplomatic isolation. And really, we're just a pawn of the US military industrial complex. And yes, you might call me a Chi-Com sympathizer. But unlike most other so-called Taiwanese here I only have the ROC passport.

What does having only a Taiwanese passport prove?

I also only have Taiwanese passport does that make what I say equally valid as yours in your mind?  I can never figure out logic like that.  Anyway.

Dislike of the CCP government is not a DPP creation i am afraid.  It is 50 years over KMT brain washing.  I am not much for the KMT brain wash, so my dislike of CCP government (notice, I never once said it's your government, you are the one that said so) is not from any political conditionning.  I simply don't like any government who's against free press and covers up the dismay of its people.

If the Taiwanese government covers up riots in any part of Taiwan, I would dislike the Taiwanese government.  It's that simple.  Therefore I disliked the KMT government because that's what they did for a long time until Lee Deng-Hui became president.

So spare me of all the you have no wisdom because you don't like China stuff.  A nation should be able to make their own judgements for their future as long as it doesn't involve invading others.

Let's settle everything with a war. I know you dun want a war. Neither do I. But because of DDP, war is the only logical result.

Invading others is different from invading an internal province of Taiwan.

Taiwan is no others and there will be war on this island. For those of you who hold a ROC passport, prepare yourself for that.

I agree, I think nationalist feeliongs are silly and outdated, I have no more love for anyone in my country then I do for those in another country, all are people, and if we wanted to no longer support our governments they will cease to exist, and if we ignore ethnicity it will cease to be important.  Whether I am distantly related to someone or not related at all matters not in how they or their nation should be judged.

We never differed on that view.  And I never said you dislike the CCP.  I said I dislike the CCP.

Both ROC and RPC are governments and regimes. China is another term.

DPP which I hate the most.

CCP

CNP

are all parties!

Disliking a democratic administrative in the US is different from disliking the American identity.

Same thing should apply to the concept of China.

It is not a political term but an identity.

Just like during the early Han dynasty, the emperor referred to Chin as China. He didn't say it was another country.

During the Warring States period, all the kings referred other states as legitimate governments of the Chinese world. But they refered the Barbarian tribes as aliens.

Same sh*t.

This Singaporean Simplified Chinese news paper said what I said.  Which is that in China this event is down played.  Whether this event is "faithfully" reported by the Western press is irralavent.  Because I personally feel that if a racial conflict can result in 120 death, it is pretty serious.  Maybe you think it is no big deal.  And I believe if the Muslism Chinese and Han Chinese's relationship is as calm as your link stated, I wonder how a car accident can evoke 120 dead.

By the way I never said the Muslism Chinese are connected with the Uyghur.  I am just saying I wonder how they will view this news if they have the chance to see it.