Nah! Mexican food is not spicy...

That's quite interesting. Mex and Tex Mex foods are fascinating.

Mexican and Chinese foods are trascendent for history of humankind. I can justify that. Besides, Merken is a product with a long historical tradition.

have you ever tried Nachos with Syrup? I guess that is what it mean by "Tex Mex"

Originally posted by Voyager Do you think that is a privilege of the Spanish? Do you think that America by the time of the arrival of the Europeans was a peaceful Paradise? Well, sorry to disapoint you, but Amerindians were extremely violent.  Did you know that the Spanish were helped by many Amerindians that hated their neighbours?

Ridiculous. 

They were violent yes, but extremely violent?   All of them?  Perhaps only the Aztec were, but then again, how are they different from the Romans?  Should the Romans have been exterminated too?

This is what the Europeans brought to America:  Violence and pestilence that killed off 98% of the indiginous people of America within 400 years of Columbus' discovery.  So many of these "violent" tribes were wiped out from the face of the Earth.

George Washington, the father of America, repeatedly committed genocide where he wiped out entire villages of Iroquois Indians, which of course would include women and children.

That fantasy about how the Pilgrims peacefully celebrated Thanksgiving with the Indians is just crap.  Because just a few years later, it was recorded that during one Thanksgiving celebration, the white settlers were using the decapitated head of an Indian as a soccer ball.

Don't talk about violence of others unless you balance it out with the violence of your own people, which is far worse.  The Europeans didn't only devastate the Native Americans:  Ever heard of the Trans Atlantic slave trade?  Colonialism?  The Opium trade?  Have you any idea the numbers that died from each of these forms violence and greed that more often than not included genocide?  Europeans and Americans didn't even start bathing regularly until about 150 years ago, or was it 100 years ago?!?

Only the 13th Century Mongols can equal the violence of the Europeans in the colonial age up to WWII. 

But then again, America was pretty damn violent in Vietnam don't cha think?  And Iraq now?

Vietnam War:

1.  3-4 million Vietnamese killed
2.  3 times more bombs dropped in one tiny province of South Vietnam than in all of Europe in WWII.
3.  American GI's coming home with jars and jars of Vietnamese ears.
4.  US soldiers decapitating Vietnamese.  There's plenty of footage of Vietnamese being tortured by Americans.
5.  Millions of gallons of Agent Orange defoliate that still wreaks havoc on Vietnamese today.
6.  Ever heard of "free fire zones"?
7.  In Vietnam, the "Vietnam War" is referred to as the "American War".
8.  etc. etc. etc...

Iraq Wars:
1.  1980's:  Reagan-Bush admin arms Saddam with chemical and biological agents.  Saddam uses them on Iranians and Kurds.  Reagan protects Saddam at the UN.
2.  1991:   Hundreds of thousands killed, both civilian and military.
3.  1991-2003:  UN study says 800,000 children die from US led embargo.
4.   2003-2007:  Hundreds of thousands killed.  Hint:  It ain't all by the insurgents and jihadi's.  At least 100,000 killed by 2004, which was well before the insurgency began to peak.  Most of these were killed as a result of American bombs and bullets.  Now, it is far more likely that the insurgents are committing most of the mass murder against Iraqi civilians..., but not early on.  America deserves credit for genocide in 2003 and 2004, and still does no doubt.  It is just that the insurgency is now doing more of the killing of Iraqis themselves.  All of this is for naught, because the US will pull out leaving a bigger mess than was their under Saddam, whom they supported in the first place.
5.  The total number of Iraqi deaths from America or American meddling is already in the millions--and climbing!

There's a lot more about the Mideast you obviously don't know about, for if you did, you would be talking trash about the violent nature of Native Americans.

6.  You do know that the war is about oil, right?

Originally posted by Voyager Menzies theory is complete and utter crap.

Saying something is crap doesn't mean you've proven it is crap.

Originally posted by Voyager Finally, all this talk about the Chinese having reached the Americas before the Europeans is just wishful thinking with the objective of legitimating China's "peaceful rising" across the globe.

Why are you so offended by this theory?

FYI:  I'm Vietnamese, we don't particularly care much for the Chinese.  The same goes for all of China's neighbors.  Vietnam's smaller neighbors don't care much for the Vietnamese either, but this is natural, since next door neighbors often fight for the same resources.  What's that saying?  Familiarity breeds contempt.  However, the situation with China has always been a one sided thing:  China has been attacking Vietnam for over 2000 years.  I'm telling you this so that you can't accuse me of being pro-Chinese or of having any Asian soldiarity by anymeans.  Asian solidarity does not exist.

Originally posted by Voyager Well, sorry to disapoint you, but Amerindians were extremely violent.

Damn, you sound like Phil Sheridan! 

The only good indian is a dead indian!

--- Gen. Philip Sheridan, United States Army, 1869

Originally posted by Voyager Did you know that the Spanish were helped by many Amerindians that hated their neighbours?

This is just like those whites who say that the Africans also took part in the Trans-Atlantic slave trade.

It is nothing more than a defacto justification for slavery in the US.  Everybody's doin' it!

Just because you see two little kids fighting doesn't mean you can jump in, punch both of their lights out, and then rob them.   

Ever heard of divide and conquer?

For the last 500 years, the West has advanced big time on the backs of the rest of the world:  The plunder of the Americas with shipload after shipload of gold and silver going to build Europes great castles, cathedrals and universities.  And don't forget the plunder of Africa, Asia, and the ongoing one in the Mideast, where divide and conquer is constantly employed.

Nice. 


But don't you worry your pretty little head none, because the era European domination is about to end--for better or worse.  As of now, I'm not sure which it will be.

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And lastly, dude calm down.  Besides, there's conclusive proof the Vikings were already in eastern Canada in the 11th Century. 

Well, Europeans were extremely cruel against Amerindians, indeed. I can tell you a horror movie story just recalling what the Spaniards did against Native Americans in theirs wars.

Originally posted by pinguin However, some data above in wrong. It is false that 98% of Amerindian perish of disseases. If that would have happened, there wouldn't be Native Americans, Mestizos and Samboes in the Americas at all, and they are plenty. 70 millions of pure Amerindians still exist in the hemisphere and there are hundred of millions of Mestizos, that make perhaps the largest racial mixture in the hemisphere.

The 98% figure was for America only.

Originally posted by TranHungDao ...The 98% figure was for America only.

Originally posted by TranHungDao ...Lastly, even if they did "discover" America before Columbus or the Vikings...  Who the heck cares?!?  Ask the Native Americans who discovered America?  And they'll give you quite a different answer, indeed an earful, telling Europeans and Asians to go back from whence they came.  And good riddance!

Originally posted by pinguin  Actually, that's what Amerindians thing of Europeans, Africans and Asians living in the Americas: "leave us alone"