TRNC

Maju your a joker, not even Greek Cypriots claim that Turkish Cypriots were 8% i take it that it was an uneducated guess.

Since there seems to be many who on this forum that are not so familiar lets go over the basic and fundemental points (instead of going in circles like the many other evil Turk/evil Greek arguements)

Firstly there main ethnic groups involved in the Cyprus conflict are Greek, Turks, Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriots respectfully.

History of the conflicts in Cyprus

Arrival of the Turks

The Turkish population first arrived in Cyprus after the Ottoman Empire took the island from Latin Venetian (Not Greek). I will not go into detail since we already have a topic on Ottoman Cyprus.

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British Occupation

On the 4 June 1878, under the Cyprus convention. Cyprus would be adminstered by the British in return for an alliance against the growing Russian threat. In 1914 Cyprus was formally annexed as a British Crown colony.

The British occupation saw the begning of oppresion towards the Turkish Cypriots. Many Turkish Cypriots at the thought of being under kafir (non-Muslim) rule emigrated to modern day Turkey. As soon as the British came into power they relieved the Muslim Turks of their administrative duties and replaced their position with British and even Greek and Armenian Cypriots. Thus the balance of power went to the Christians. Another way in which the Britsh sought to bring about an inbalance of power towards the Christians (ethnicities were often refered to by their religion in those times) was by settling Greeks from Greece to Cyprus.
With such an increace in the Greek poputlation the ENOSIS movement (union with Greece) gained momentem.

An example of discrimination against the Turkish Cypriots is the case of 27 May 1912. Greeks repeatedly attacked on Turkish parts of Limassol, stormed the mosques; beat and killed the Turks in shops and at the fair; destroyed and plundered Turkish properties All in the name of ENOSIS. The mob cheered "long live Greece... Long live ENOSIS" thus showing no resenment.
The barbaric act of the ENOSIS movement was so bad that it pressed the British to call for reinforcements from Egypt.

These attacks are should not be taken as a surprise since the Greek Cypriot population at the time was tought rasist propaganda from a young age as mentioned by as stated by Canon F.D. Newham, 1902 that Greek Cypriot children were taught songs with lyrics such as; "Forward, follow the drum that LEADS US AGAINST TURKS"

In 1950 the the AKEL organisation restarted the ENOSIS movement. In 1955 Archbishop Makarios after returning from New York met with General Grivas to form the terrorist organisation EOKA. Intially there activities were aimed at the British (although if the truth be told initially more Greek Cyp. died). In 1957 EOKA started a wave of attacks on Britains, Greeks and Turks. As a defencive measure the Turkish Cyp. created the group 'Volkan', later known as T.M.T.

Cyprus Rupublic

In 1960 Cyprus became an independent state. Unfortunately this did not stop discriminative behaviour towards the Turks. At first this discrimination was political, on 21 December 63' this all changed. The result of the attacks of 1963-1964 is the destruction of 103 Turkish villages and over a thousand houses and shops. Over 25,000 Turkish Cypriots, almost one fourth of the total Turkish Cypriot people were uprooted from their homes and had become refugees. Thus the republic of Cyprus lasted only for mere 3 years in a state of non-violance.

Peace operation-Cyprus 74'

"Turkish women were raped, children were shot in the street and the Turkish quarter of Limassol was burnt out by the (Greek) National Guard."The Times, 23 July 1974

The problems kepts continuaing, so on the 10 November 1969, Turkey's premier S�leyman Demiral stated "the Cyprus problem is a national problem".

Above:"They will come, one day they will come...Turkey will come to save us"

On the 15 July 1974 the Cypriot national guard led by Greek mainland officers staged a coup, with the aim of speeding up the ENOSIS prosess. This led again to much bloodshed. This event is a FACT. Even Makarios said the it was "invasion of the island by Greece". On 16 of June, Ecevit asked the British to join  Turkey in enforcing the Treaty of Guarantee. The British declined. The Turkish Cypriot refugees were confined to only 3% of Cyprus in awfull conditions.

WIth massacre of Turks continuing Ecevit could no longer wait, so he ordered for the Cyprus Peace Operation. Which started on the 20 July 1974. The Turkish troops arrived at Girne.
In order to never allow such horrible acts from happening again the Turkish peace oppearation created a state for the Turkish Cypriots on the north of the island. At first it was the 'Turkish Federated State of Cyprus'.

Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus

On the 15.11.1983 the 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus' (TRNC) was established. Thus proving to the world that Turkey did not have ambitions to conquer the island of CYprus (although they had the means to) and even when they secured the Northen Cyprus the allowed them to have their independence. Unfortunately the international community does not recongnise the TRNC thus has put embargoes on them.

There are those that claim that the TRNC leaders are puppets of Turkey. This however is pure ignorance those that know about Turkish Cypriot politics will know that the Primeminister Soyer and esp. the President Talat can by no means be accused of such an accusation.

Republic of South Cyprus

At the recent referendom the SOuth Cyprus government told his people to vote no (oxi) to the UN Annan Plan. They also are totaly against the recognition of the TRNC or of the lifting of the embargoes.

In fact the RSC is even calling for immigrants to come to Cyprus, since under the law of RSC all civilians become Greek Cypriot.

The breakdown of "GREEK CYPRIOT SETTLERS" in this electoral list of 500,000 is approximately as follows:

Ponthus Greek Cypriots: 60,000 - 70,000

Citizens of the former Soviet Republic: 30,000

Christians who escaped from Lebanon: 15,000 - 20,000

Immigrants from Greece: 100,000

Asylum seeker Kurds: 2,500 - 3,000

Asylum seeker citizens from third countries: 9,500

Total "Greek Cypriot Settlers": approximately 230,000

Ofcourse this is not the business of the TRNC, however one must point out the irony due to the fact that the RSC is actually complining that TURKS from Turkey are coming to the TRNC. Upon which they are even allowing for mass settlers from a totally diffrent ethnicity.

"Praise be to Allah for saving my people from ethnic cleansing"

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Replies to the above arguments can be found by Hellen posters,including me, in the 27 topics about the spedific issue.

Concerning murders,there were atrocities by BOTH sides.

For Turkey's and Cyprussian Turk's safe