Azerbaijani Origions

the medean connection with azari's.

is it different than turkish-hitit connection?

This topic is about the origin of the present day Azaris, right? How can anyone exclude the Turkic origin, while they are presently belong to Turkic group? It's really odd.

One present nation can be originally belong to several groups. there are so many examples, such as Bulghars, Hungarians, Ukranians, Turks etc.  

It's probable the native people pior to the Turkic migration were Caucasian, Iranic, Ugrian or Indo european. The question is how come they had been Turkified, if Turkic tribes had no major role in the formation of them as Azaris? 

The ruling power? I don't think so. You only need to remember Moghuls in India and  Manchus in China.

The culture? No again, as the native culture seemed to be more attractive.

The population? This seemed to be the answer, given the fact that above two possibilities are slim.

So the conclusion is that Azeris are orininally mainly Turkic, partly native people who belonged to other groups.

nothing
Hitties were Indo-European
Hitties & Turks distance in Anatolia= 2000 years
else in pan turk theory, Summerian are turk then Hitit are too

Nothing, true. Like azeri-medean connection.

Thats because there is no evidence of a strong Turkic movement into the region until the first millenia. 

Most likely the inhabitants of Azerbaijan have been Turkified, like some people in Anatolia...

Err, Turks at anatolia used azerbaijan as a way. So we are surely have some turk at there.

Infact If turkish empires at iran loved and supported persian culture(as a lot of our persian friend said), There were not any reason for turkification of other people, so I cannot see any reason for turkification, except a large turkish iimmigration to that lands.

the turkish origion is not included because it would mean that there was a tribe of turks called azaris that came from central asia to the caucasus. this is not true.

if you think that azari's were origionally turkic, than thats like saying the people of anatolia were origionally turkic.

they are now turks because they have been turkified.

Turkification probably started largely after teh russians took the land, and tried to seperate and create a division from iran.

the reason i say this is because historians record the people speaking an iranic language as far as teh 17th and 18th century.

well, the moghul empire was turco persian. the turks ran the military aspect, the persians ran the administration and culture and stuff like that.

the culture was definetly iranic.

    no, they arent origionally turkic. you have no proof, this is all just your analsys.

let me ask you, were the anatolian people origionally turkic?

wow.  ok, iranic peoples were in the near east more than 3000 years ago, so it is very possible that azaris were iranic, or iranified, before the turks even got there, 2000 years later....

so hitits and other anatolian people too, so turkish-hitit relation is same with azeris-median relation but interestingly, when you love to call azeris, iranian persian, you dont call turks as hitits.

Did I miss something? why are you so hopeless about azeris, I am sure they have more turkish blood than Turkey turks.

Turkification probably started largely after teh russians took the land, and tried to seperate and create a division from iran

so why are there still turkish speaking people at iran? because of russia. Dont be so much naive. They were turk before russians.

wow, either you dont want to understand, or you just cant understand.

why dont you post evidence smart guy.... maybe because there arent any that support your view....just your opinions.