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    Posted: 05-Nov-2004 at 21:54
         well the BBC last said that he's in a coma and has recovered and fallen into it again...and the palestinian authourities are negotiating with the Israel government on the matter of his funeral. Arafat wishes to be buried in jerusalem but the israeli government said that's just not gonna happen...in the city where jewish kings have been buried in the past has no room for an arab, so they say.
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  Quote sephodwyrm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Nov-2004 at 23:34
Faugh! The Osmand controlled Jerusalem for a very long time. There are tonnes of Muslims buried in Jerusalem. Maybe Israel should dig them all up and scatter them throughout the wilderness.
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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Nov-2004 at 15:35
When the spokesman came out to say "Yassar Arafat.......is not dead" it was not exactly the most...hopefull statment I have heard.
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  Quote Cornellia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Nov-2004 at 16:18
I read a report this afternoon that he's being kept on life support until they can agree on a burial place.
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  Quote sephodwyrm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Nov-2004 at 20:26
Haiz...well, he's been fighting for a long time, and eventually time will be up for him. But I guess the refusal of Israel to allow Arafat to be buried in Jerusalem would be a cause for more deaths...
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Nov-2004 at 23:38

             as a man...i think arafat is a good man. and yes he has been fighting all his life for a cause that he think is right. how many people can do that? i can't even make up my mind wether i wanna clean the apartment tonight...

         it'll be sad to see him leave...but it's also a relieve in a sense...at least for him..



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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Nov-2004 at 17:39
I don't think Arafat is a good man, but unfortunately "in the land of the blind, one-eye is king".
His sucessor, whoever it will be, will probably be much more radical.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Nov-2004 at 04:20

 

Yassir Araft deserve to be buried in Jerusalem

He is a symbole for this generation. why they are

not allow ? It is Toooooooomuch

 

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Israel has allowed him to be buried in Ramallah
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Islamic Cleric Prays at Arafat's Bedside


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By LARA SUKHTIAN, Associated Press Writer

CLAMART, France - A top Islamic cleric read passages from the Quran at Yasser Arafat (news - web sites)'s hospital bedside Wednesday, with the comatose Palestinian leader in what an aide called the "final phase" of his life.

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As Arafat's condition deteriorated, aides made plans to eventually fly his body to Cairo for a funeral, then to the West Bank for burial at his Ramallah headquarters. Palestinians also selected his immediate successor, saying the parliament speaker Rauhi Fattouh a relative unknown will become temporary president of the Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) at Arafat's death.

The cleric, Taisser Bayod Tamimi, rushed to Paris from the West Bank to be with the 75-year-old Palestinian leader, who is in critical condition at the Percy Military Training Hospital, connected to a respirator and a feeding tube.

"I prayed to God for his recovery," said Tamimi, who said he was with Arafat for more than an hour, reciting from the Muslim holy book. Tamimi said his close friend was very sick, "but he is still alive."

Tamimi said earlier that life support machines would not be turned off "as long as there are signs of life in the body of the president."

"It is prohibited in Islam," he said.

Gen. Christian Estripeau, a hospital spokesman, told the newspaper Le Monde that Arafat's death "could be a question of hours or, perhaps, days."

The Palestinian envoy to France, Leila Shahid, told France-Info that Arafat was still "in a deep coma" Wednesday morning, but added there was a "complication in the state of all of his vital organs."

He was therefore "in a critical state," she said. "The reality is that he is in the hands of God."

Shahid said Tamimi had come simply to pray with Arafat.

"It is clear, as for a Christian, as for a Jew, that a religious man needs to be with his patient when he is in the final phase of his life," Shahid said. "That is why he is here."

At a news conference in Ramallah late Tuesday, Palestinian Cabinet minister Saeb Erekat said doctors were trying to relieve bleeding from a severe brain hemorrhage, which can cause brain damage.

Shahid said doctors were fighting to keep Arafat alive. The physicians "are doing everything, in the intensive care unit, to try to give him his chances," she said.

But she also said that France, which sent a plane to bring Arafat to France on Oct. 29, would also organize his repatriation.

Palestinian leaders, meanwhile, decided that when the time comes, they would bury Arafat at his sandbagged West Bank headquarters, known as the Muqata, in Ramallah, and turn it into a shrine, defusing a potential conflict with Israel by dropping a demand for a Jerusalem burial.

The Israeli Cabinet approved that plan Wednesday.

Israel had been pushing for a Gaza burial, but the Palestinians wanted Jerusalem. Palestinians see Arafat's Ramallah headquarters his virtual prison for the last three years as a symbol of his resistance. Burial there is less politically sensitive for Israel.

 

In Ramallah, bulldozers pushed aside rubble and hauled away piles of wrecked cars to prepare the compound for Arafat's burial.

Palestinian leaders accepted an offer from Egypt to host the main funeral service in Cairo a site less problematic for foreign dignitaries before Arafat is buried in Ramallah.

The service could be held at Cairo's international airport, security officials in Egypt said. That would allow Arab leaders to attend without dealing with Israel, which controls access to the Palestinian territories. It also would allow foreign leaders to pay their respects without having to visit the West Bank, where Palestinian security forces might not be able to guarantee their safety.

"It was decided that the body will be brought to Cairo and there will lie in state," Erekat told The Associated Press. "After that, the body will be flown from Cairo to Ramallah."

While the exact nature of Arafat's illness remained undisclosed, his condition has steadily worsened since he was flown to the military hospital outside Paris.

Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath gave the first detailed description of Arafat's treatment at a news conference Tuesday, after days of confusing and often conflicting reports.

The French medical team treating Arafat publicly acknowledged his comatose condition for the first time Tuesday and said it had worsened. Estripeau declined to offer a prognosis but said the deterioration in Arafat's condition marked "a significant stage."

Shaath was part of a delegation led by Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia and Mahmoud Abbas, the No. 2 man behind Arafat in the Palestine Liberation Organization (news - web sites). The group returned to the West Bank early Wednesday after a 24-hour visit.

Shaath's news conference underlined that the Palestinian leadership was now in control of information about Arafat.

Palestinian officials had been denied access by Arafat's wife, Suha, who used France's strict privacy laws that give authority to the family.

Shaath said a dramatic disagreement with Suha Arafat, who had accused the visiting Palestinians of trying to topple their longtime leader, had been smoothed over and that she embraced delegation members at the hospital.

"She is the wife of a great man, our leader, and is the mother of his only daughter," Shaath said. "She will always be respected and protected by the Palestinian people."

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Palestinian leader Arafat dies at 75


PARIS, France (CNN) -- Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, 75, the leader who passionately sought a homeland for his people but was seen by many Israelis as a ruthless terrorist and a roadblock to peace, died early Thursday in Paris.

"The last two days were very painful, very difficult days," said chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat, who confirmed Arafat's death Thursday morning. "And now, after these painful days of President Arafat, he is dead."

Arafat had been sick with an unknown illness that had been variously described as the flu, a stomach virus or gallstones. He flew to Paris October 29 seeking medical treatment and was hospitalized with what Palestinian officials said was a blood disorder.

He had been on a respirator since slipping into a coma November 3.

A hospital spokesman said he died at 3:30 a.m. Thursday (9:30 p.m. Wednesday ET).

Arafat's body will be taken from France to Cairo, where the Egyptian government will host a state funeral for him, Erakat said.

He will be buried outside the Palestinian Authority headquarters compound in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

Arafat's family had wanted him buried in Jerusalem, but the Israeli government forbade that.

"Jerusalem is the city where Jewish kings are buried, and not Arab terrorists," Israeli Justice Minister Yosef Lapid said last week.

Erakat vowed that the grave in Ramallah would be temporary.

"One day, we will have our own independent state with east Jerusalem as its capital," he said.

Erakat called it "heartbreaking" that Arafat died before achieving his goal of an independent Palestinian state, "and the Israeli occupation of our land has not finished yet." But he said Arafat managed to preserve Palestinian national identity during decades without statehood.

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State William Burns will officially represent the United States at Arafat's funeral, a senior State Department official told CNN.

Other U.S. officials may attend as private citizens, but not as government representatives, the source said.

For five decades, Arafat -- adorned with his trademark checkered kaffiyeh -- was the most prominent face of Palestinian opposition to Israel and the push for a Palestinian state, first as the head of the Palestine Liberation Organization, which carried out attacks against Israeli targets, and later as the leader of the quasi-governmental Palestinian Authority after parts of the West Bank and Gaza were returned to Palestinian control.

His death leaves no clear immediate successor in the often fractious world of Palestinian politics.

Under the Palestinian Authority's basic law, the speaker of the Palestinian parliament, Rawhi Fattuh, will replace Arafat as Palestinian Authority president on an interim basis, and elections are to be held within 60 days.

During Arafat's illness, Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei has been in charge of the Palestinian Authority, while former Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas has led the Palestine Liberation Organization's executive committee.

The president holds office for five years and can stand for re-election once.

Arafat was first elected head of the PLO in 1969, and by 1974, Arab leaders recognized the group as "the sole legitimate representative" of the Palestinian people.

In 1994, Arafat was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, along with Israeli leaders Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres, for their work on the Oslo accords, seen at the time as a breakthrough toward an independent Palestinian state and a permanent peace with Israel. Yet a decade later, Arafat died without seeing his dream of a Palestinian homeland come true.

At a summit at Camp David, Maryland, in 2000, Arafat decided to turn down a U.S.-brokered deal offering Palestinians control of most of the occupied Palestinian territory. Three months later, intense fighting broke out between Palestinians and the Israeli army.

Expressing his condolences in a statement, former U.S. President Bill Clinton said: "I regret that in 2000 he missed the opportunity to bring that nation into being and pray for the day when the dreams of the Palestinian people for a state and a better life will be realized." (Reaction)

After taking office in 2001, President Bush refused to meet with Arafat and insisted that reform and new leadership within the Palestinian Authority were prerequisites for the creation of an independent state.

In a statement, Bush called Arafat's death "a significant moment in Palestinian history."

"We express our condolences to the Palestinian people," he said. "We hope that the future will bring peace and the fulfillment of their aspirations for an independent, democratic Palestine that is at peace with its neighbors."

Israel -- in retaliation for increased terrorist attacks on Israeli civilian targets -- severely restricted Arafat's movements, confining him to his West Bank compound in Ramallah in December 2001.

Continuing violence, along with corruption and economic problems, raised questions at home and abroad about Arafat's ability to lead the Palestinian Authority.

In 2003, under pressure from the United States and members of his own Cabinet, Arafat appointed Abbas to the new position of prime minister, a move designed to decentralize power. But Abbas resigned less than six months later, saying he didn't have enough support to do the job.

In July, Arafat announced a program designed to unify security forces and tackle corruption after his frustrated second prime minister, Qorei, also tried to resign.

Arafat is survived by his wife, Suha Tawil, whom he married in 1991, and their daughter, Zahwa, who was born in 1995.



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  Quote Kubrat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Nov-2004 at 00:13
Sad thing.. to die before your dream gets realized.

Hopefully, this won't let the Palestinian people fall into chaos....
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  Quote babyblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Nov-2004 at 00:15
       oh well...
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My condolences are with his family and with his people, he will be missed by many.

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