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Topic: Ottoman Architecture in balkan Posted: 05-May-2006 at 20:09 |
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Is there a mix of different styles of architecture? and what are they?
by the way, the photos are amazing.
| Ottoman architecture is perfected style of Roman (Greek) and Persian architecture with mostly Turkic and some Arabic elements in it. So its a perfect mix of those. In the eastern parts such as central asia there is more Persian and Turkic elements on Islamic buildings. |
I think the same, even the support for gothic arches in St Pauls cathedral(london) is based on ottoman design of buttresses. And lovely pictures by the way, thxs all who bothered to post.
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The narrows between the Gulf of Patras and the Gulf of Corinth are also called the Little Dardanelles. Here in 1500 Sultan Bayazet II built on both sides a fortress, which was reinforced by the Venetians in the XVIIIth century.
Antirrion the ancient Greeks called it "Rion the Malykreion", and Rion "Rion the Achaikon". Here, on a hill, there lie ruins of two anient cities, Makyneia and Molykreas. Its geographical site, at the entrance of the Corinthian bay, made its fortification imperative. After the fall of Nafpaktos (29th August 1499) Vagiazet the 2nd built there a fortress, that was seized in 1532 by A. Doria, chief of the united Christian forces. The fortress was rebuilt by Morozini in 1669, but was demolished by the treaty of Karlovits and rebuilt again later by the Turks.
The fortress on the Peloponnesian coast was called Castello di Morea (as the Peloponnese was named during the Venetian conquest), while the fortress on the opposite side of the narrows was called Castello di Rumelia . Today they are called Castle of Rion (Morea) and Castle of Antirion (Rumelia).
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16th century world;
Ottomans all Roman orients
Safavids in Persia
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Posted: 19-May-2006 at 12:27 |
Ottoman architecture in Bulgaria
Musuem
Tulum Moque
Istanbul Gate
The Banybashi Mosque in Sofia
The luxury of Bulgaria' s rahatluk by Matthew Brunwasser
monday, april 3, 2006,International Herald Tribune
VELIKO TURNOVO, Bulgaria Other than some bars and real estate of- fices with signs in English, there are few visual clues that Veliko Turnovo has be- come one of most popular places in Bulgaria to buy a second home, especially for the British.
In recent years foreigners have bought about 500 homes in this north central town of 65,000 and the surrounding mountaintop villages, ac- cording to Stephane Lambert, co-owner of Stara Planina Properties.
Lambert, 40, arrived in Bulgaria from Lon- don in 1998 as an urban planner for a United Nations project to restore public buildings. In 2001, the British Channel Four series "A Place in the Sun," enlisted him to help produce an episode about buying a property in Bulgaria. Since then, the country' s real estate has be- come something of a national obsession in Great Britain.
Lambert has sold about 200 properties to foreigners from his offices in Veliko Turnovo and Varna, which is the biggest city on the Black Sea coast.
He said most buyers have come for the bar- gains: Country houses and city apartments generally sell for 10,000 euros to 20,000 euros, or $ 12,000 to $ 24,000. (The Bulgarian lev is pegged to the euro, so real estate values are expressed in euros, even though the country is not in the euro zone.)
Veliko Turnovo' s varied past is reflected in its architecture. Founded by the Romans, it was the capital of the Second Bulgarian Empire from 1185 to 1393, when it fell after a three month siege to the Ottoman Turks, who controlled the entire region until the late 19th century.
The town' s natural fortifications are visually stunning. It is surrounded on all sides by the Balkan mountain range, from which the peninsula takes its name, and overlooks the Yantra River, which snakes through a valley far below.
The wooden Turnovo houses have white washed facades, oak balconies and roofs of red ceramic tiles.
Their fitted stone foundations blend imperceptibly with the rocky earth, so they appear to grow from their surroundings as naturally as geological formations.
Le Corbusier, in his 1911 book "Journey to the East," marveled at the "avalanche of houses" in Turnovo and praised the "perfect cleanliness." He described the Balkan people, based on the evidence of their architecture, as "men who do not reason" and have an "instinctive appreciation for the organic line."
In the past several years, Lambert has also sold about 10 Ottoman-era houses to Britons intent on high-end restorations. Most of them were registered as national monuments of culture, so government approval was required before any changes could be made.
Some of the finest examples of Ottoman-era houses are in the village of Arbanassi, about five kilometers, or three miles, away on a hill overlooking the city. Because the entire village is classified as a national monument, the building materials are strictly defined: oak, sandstone, red ceramic roof tiles, traditional straw and plaster walls.
Nikolai Stoyanov, an architect in Veliko Turnovo whose company, Arka Architecture, has restored Ottoman-era houses in Arbanassi, says foreigners are attracted to the beauty of the houses and the way of life from past centuries that they represent.
Rahatluk is part of this, he said. a concept treasured by the Ottoman Turks that roughly is translated into "pleasure from comfort, and not doing much at all."
In homes, the concept is reflected by the chardak, a large shady porch where the resident can greet guests, drink tea or nap, and the minder, a large couch lined with pillows used for much the same activities.
Stoyanov said rahatluk is a spiritual condition that goes beyond simply relaxation, laziness or comfort. "Health, happiness and business need to be taken care of before you can have rahatluk," he said. "It is an oriental idea." Emma Johnson, a fashion student in Manchester, England, bought an 18th century house in Arbanassi that she intends to renovate as a vacation home.She paid 36,000 euros for the 395-square-meter, or 4,252-square-foot, eight-room house with about eight-tenths of a hectare, or two acres, of land.The estimates she got from local architects put the cost of renovations between 58,000 euros and 130,600 euros.
Johnson wants the finished house to have the comforts of a modern home while preserving the original style, similar to that of the museum houses she has seen nearby.
"I love the character, the platforms, the carpets, the fireplaces," she said. "It's incredibly comfortable and relaxing here."
Herald Tribune, 3rd April 2006
Eski Cami Mosque, Yambol, Bulgaria, completed 17th century
Ottoman houses/buildings
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Posted: 19-May-2006 at 13:16 |
Roads,if roads are arictecture,they are , arnt they?
Turks did a preety damn good job there.
I prefer the Asian stylee of building tho(the stuf that can be seen on Erdely),....where the roof resemles a hat,lol.No nails no metal,just wood, no stone,........so it can burn down easy,.....hahahahaha,.........aigh. J/K
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Posted: 01-Aug-2006 at 18:07 |
Originally posted by Bulldog
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Lovely! This building is right accross my school in Kardjali. It used to be a Medrese, but now it is a Historical Museum.
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Posted: 02-Aug-2006 at 04:33 |
Do I see Bulgarian Revival houses (Bulldog pictures 12-16) supposed to be Ottoman architecture? And the old King's Palace, now the National Academy of Arts (picture 19), which, afaik, was built after the Liberation? What are your sources that these are Ottoman buildings?
And thanks for lifting this thread up, bg_turk! I wouldn't have seen it otherwise...
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Posted: 02-Aug-2006 at 05:10 |
Originally posted by NikeBG
Do I see Bulgarian Revival houses (Bulldog pictures 12-16) supposed to be Ottoman architecture? And the old King's Palace, now the National Academy of Arts (picture 19), which, afaik, was built after the Liberation? What are your sources that these are Ottoman buildings?
And thanks for lifting this thread up, bg_turk! I wouldn't have seen it otherwise...
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And these mosques look a lot like the Hagia Sophia, which was not part of the Ottoman architecture
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Posted: 02-Aug-2006 at 06:49 |
yes that mosques are part of greek architecture, Infact we can even call them greek mosques.
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Posted: 02-Aug-2006 at 07:16 |
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yes that mosques are part of greek architecture, Infact we can even call them greek mosques. |
You can call the Hagia Sophia a turkish church if you like, too. Still I believe I'm right though
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Posted: 02-Aug-2006 at 14:54 |
Originally posted by NikeBG
Do I see Bulgarian Revival houses (Bulldog pictures 12-16) supposed to be Ottoman architecture?
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I do not know if they are Bulgarian or Ottoman architecture, but it is for a fact that the same architecture is very common in Turkey, as I witnessed myself during my visit to Antalia. I have no idea who stole what from whom though
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Posted: 02-Aug-2006 at 17:22 |
This should be further checked then! It would be very interesting for me if such a style has its origins also in Turkey/Asia Minor!
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Posted: 12-Aug-2006 at 07:11 |
Don't be too surprised. The Otoman empire invaded parts of Europe ( balkans ) and rulled it for centuries.
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Do you think I don't know?
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The Ottomans from early on were heavily influenced by Roman(Byzantine) architecture and also by Persian. When MetMet(?) captured Constantinople he destroyed all the churches but the Hagia Sophia, being so astonished that such a building could be made. Its easy to see the Turks had a standing example of Byzantine ingenuity coupled with immense aestetic qualities. Also there is arabic influence througout.
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Posted: 04-Mar-2007 at 18:26 |
Architecture of Orient seems picturesque and the cultural heritage of Ottoman is undeniably precious .
Thanks to our predecessors.
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Posted: 04-Mar-2007 at 18:45 |
Ah, what a great thread, I'm glad it was brought back up ;)
The ruined mosque near the beginning is fascinating-looking-- the one with the bricks all crumbling.
My friend is a Bosnian architecture student, I wish she posted on this board, I'm sure she could come up with some more nice examples!
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Posted: 05-Mar-2007 at 10:51 |
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When MetMet(?) captured Constantinople he destroyed all the churches but the Hagia Sophia, being so astonished that such a building could be made. |
i think you are wrong because there are more byzantine churches in istanbul not only hagia sophia.
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Posted: 05-Mar-2007 at 11:19 |
Topic: Ottoman Architecture in balkan
Sarajevo is a nice Ottoman town.
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Posted: 05-Mar-2007 at 17:33 |
These are from Dobruja, Romania:
Babadag, 16th century mosque and 17th century Sari Saltuk Dede mausoleum
More photos from Babadag
Mangalia, 16th century mosque and the Turkish cemetery
Constanta, the mosque built in 1910, the first building in steel-beton in Romania. The other photo is of Hunchiar mosque built in 1869 by sultan Abdul Aziz.
A list of all mosques in Dobruja (see the all 4 pages)
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Ottoman architecture is a synthesis of primarilly late Seljuk-Beylik, Roman-Byantine with elements of Timurid, Mamluke, Ummayed styles in addition to it's own unique and original Ottoman architectural developments and styles.
A great example of this is the "Turkish Bath", Turks had steam baths in Central Asia, when they arrived in Anatolia they came across the Roman style baths, hence a new synthesis, the two complimented each other and became something new, what is today known as the Turkish Bath.
The typical Ottoman town would begin with finding a fresh water source, nearby an "Ulu Camii", Grand Mosque would be built, the mosque was not just a place of worship in those days. It would have a primary school and high school building attached, if the town prospered a University and faculty of higher learning would be added. In addition to this, the Mosque would have a abulution and drinking water fountain and fresh water fountains would be built in every district. To support this a "Charshi (market/traders) street" would be constructed adjacent of nearby the Mosque. The traders would contribute some of the money earned to helping support the institutions, also the Mosque's would provide, "homes and food for the homeless", homes for orphans, a hospital and in developed areas mental hospitals. The street's would be planned, gates constructed and the residential houses would follow a similar plan unless wealthy families wished to patron their own original styles.
Sarajavo was and still is a great example of Ottoman civic architecture and city planning.
Until the very end of the Ottoman period, the skyline of Sarajevo was known for its 99 mahalas of whitewashed houses punctuated by 99 slender minarets that rose from their centers.4 It was likewise punctuated by minaret-like poplar trees, for trees were a required adjunct to mosques and graveyards, and a preferred part of a house courtyard. Even until recently, the skies of Sarajevo must have appeared as pierced as eyelet lace, for in 1958 Sarajevo had many hundreds of mosques and mahala mesdzids and poplars. (Balic, 1994) p. 154
Sarajevo became one of the most advanced cities in Europe. It had its own water system, clock tower, bathhouses, and schools. In a time when education was merely for the wealthy, and most Europeans considered baths to be unhealthy, Sarayliyas (Sa-ray-lee-yas, residents of Sarajevo) were among the cleanest and most culturally advanced commoners on the continent. A famous Sarajevan poet of the time wrote, "There it seems to man that he can live for a long time, for in a thousand places in Sarajevo flows water from the well of longevity".
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