Megalo Idea

Your signature is obnoxious. I think you should change it.

I did look at some, at least probably more than you. And there are no sign of Greek civilisation except the southern Aegean coasts and Northeastern cities of once Pontus. Actually, those northeastern cities have much more in common with Georgia than Greece as culture. Rest of historical sites and ruins are mostly from Hittite, Luwian related people (Arzawa/Troy, Lykia, Paphlagonia, Lydia, Commagene/Kimakku, Cilicia/Kissuwadna etc.) and Roman/Byzanthine.

Sorry, But I can find no signs of historical Greek culture/civilisation nowhere in the central and Eastern regions of Turkey. Even not in southern shores.

Not at all. We all speak English here but it doesn't mean we are AngloSaxons. And that wasn't a strong identity for those native Anatolians, especially the ones from the inner regions after the Hellenistic period since it is known that Cilicia Trachea, Cappadocia and Phyrgia used to have native speakers until total Christianification/Byzanthine influence, and some left even after that.

Culturally, Anatolian/Istanbul Rumoi were definately appart from Greeks. Just like Azeris and Turks today. Since Azeris can't have any claim on Anatolia but they are the same language's speakers with us, Morean Greeks didn't have much common with Rumoi of Anatolia.

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Thanks for compliement. I see Greek forumers here have much in common with us, including sense of humor...

I totally agree here. That's why I said they were different from the Greeks of the Greek homeland and colonies. Because they were Christians, not Greeks by identity, and Rumoi of Byzanthine Empire, not Greek citizens. The fact they spoke Greek at town and a forgotten Anatolian language at home wasn't enough to make them Greeks as identity.

I say. Isn't that enough? But even if I was a native convert (I am not, I am a Turk, Turkmen by origin), I wouldn' be calling myself neither Greek nor Turk until 19th century. Today, I do call myself Turk, and happy of saying it.

No doubt for that.

Homeland? What makes Anatolia a Morean Greek's homeland? If there's someone who should remember his lost homeland, he would either be a Hittite related person, and we built a monument for their honor in the middle of our capital city, Ankara, which was a Hittite city once.

Of course not. You can still visit our homeland and satisfy your nationalism, after you pay the visa price though. So you should be the first one voting for Turkey 's membership to EU, then it would be more economic for you to have a look at the musum of Aya Sofya or Ephesos. I heard they were taking twice price from foreigners all over touristic places. Best luck!

The fact that we all shared a common glorious past,from hellenistic times until 1923,the fact that they spoke Greek like the rest of the Greeks and the fact that they were christians living in Asia Minor,which was the craddle of orthodox christianity,made the Rumoi/Romioi of Asia Minor  Greeks by identity.Because this is how  the Greeks identified themselves:language,common past especially common Byzantine past,christian religion

Originally posted by Bashibozuk Of course not. You can still visit our homeland and satisfy your nationalism, after you pay the visa price though. So you should be the first one voting for Turkey 's membership to EU, then it would be more economic for you to have a look at the musum of Aya Sofya or Ephesos. I heard they were taking twice price from foreigners all over touristic places. Best luck!

I am surpised that some of you guys try to communicate with Bashibozuk.

That guy see warehouses as mosques, see minares which actually don't exist and thinks that commedies are porn (Bashi sometimes porn is good, you should try see one movies, it opens your mind in sex).

 Believe me guys it is a waste of time, that guys make the grey wolves look like communist......

Ps. Oh i forgot it he also claimed that a bridge was a mosque!!!! let see what else he will see as mosque......

Hmm, to much stupidity around, I won't bother with this.

Beylerbeyi, name a defeat of the Greek army before Saggarios battle (which was not a defeat).

Keep in mind also that Italians and French DID give you material help. Also, in the last attack (August 1922), Turks had good local numerical superiority. It's true that the turkish army was underequiped and smaller than the Greek for the most part of the war, and that why you got severely defeated. And I don't know how you see 'Turks defending their homeland', but what I know is that the Greek army had turkic volunteers fighting with it.

I won't say more, because I see you in Turkey are taught a fake version to fit your overblown nationalism (for which I'm not saurprised at all).

Also note that Greece wanted to make peace from the begining of the war, but Ataturk would not accept. Greece NEVER laid claims for lands as deep as Ankyra.