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hansioux 
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 Topic: WuShia Taiwan Aboriginal Rebellion movie in the makingPosted: 26-Oct-2004 at 19:37 |
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Home page:http://www.seediqbale.com/ Trailer: http://www.purely16.com.tw/video/purely16-SeediqBale-en_hi.w mv Unfortunate the homepage is in Han characters. I'll suggest them make a English version. Sedek (or Seediq) tribe Taiwanese Aboriginal uprising at WuShia was not the only or most cruel Taiwanese uprising against the Japanese. But it was the most successful. Taiwan recently made a TV serie on the same topic, but even though the incident happened less than 100 years ago, due to the Chinese oppression after the Nationalist colonized Taiwan, they can not find enough people that spoke the Seediq langauge to make the TV Serie, and they had to use Mandarin to subsitude for the tradition Seediq language, which wasn't ever spoken in Taiwan during that era. In light of this, a talented Taiwanese Han director wanted to make an authentic movie, and record the Seediq history with Seediq points of view and language. I personally loved the style and I have to say, Seediq is a beautiful language. The title Seediq Bale has two meanings. Seediq means people or person, and Bale means great. So it means great person or hero. This is a real historic event which most of people in Taiwan know it by name, but nothing else. Well, enjoy. Edited by hansioux |
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Tobodai
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Posted: 26-Oct-2004 at 20:42 |
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thats cool, that guy about to be killed looks like an officer yet he has a standard rifle, I like that knife though.
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I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 27-Oct-2004 at 01:27 |
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Interesting...is aborigional culture big in taiwan?
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hansioux
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Posted: 27-Oct-2004 at 04:09 |
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This is pre-WW2 era. So I am not too familiar with their weapons back then. Maybe I should ask my grandpa, he worked for the Colonial Palace.
Also, I might be wrong, but I think those aren't soldiers. They look like the the Japanese Mountain Police sent to keep the aboriginals in submission. Edited by hansioux |
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Begging plea of the weak can only receive disrespect, violence and oppression as bestowments. Blood and sweat of the weak can only receive insult, blame and abuse as rewards.
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hansioux
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Posted: 27-Oct-2004 at 04:13 |
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It should be, because we are actually the majorities. However, the 2 colonialization forces distroyed most of the tribal systems and forced the poeple to stop using their own languages, the aboriginal culture was fading fast. But since the peaceful transition of power, the aboriginal history and culture are getting back again. People from either end of political spectrum wishes to gain the aboriginal's support. |
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Begging plea of the weak can only receive disrespect, violence and oppression as bestowments. Blood and sweat of the weak can only receive insult, blame and abuse as rewards.
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Kulong
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Posted: 30-Oct-2004 at 13:34 |
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Taiwanese aboriginies aren't the majority. They only make up less than 2% of the total population. |
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demon
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Posted: 31-Oct-2004 at 07:04 |
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Wow. Seems interesting to me to see a native group combat the Japanese. But why did they?
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Grrr..
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sephodwyrm
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Posted: 31-Oct-2004 at 14:17 |
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Wushe incident, first 1930, October 27, Second 1931 April 25 The Tayal leader Mona Ludao felt that the Japanese are destroying their culture, their traditions, their ideals and their way of life. In the revolt, the Japanese actually got other tribes to fight against the rebellious tribe. Over 100 aboriginal Taiwanese were killed and decapitated by the tribes that sided with the Japanese. In the suppression of the movement the Japanese also used gas bombs and mountain artillery. It was a move that resulted in the near extinction of the tribe and over 1000++ dead. When the movement started, the slogan was to kill the Japanese. Unfortunately, 2 Han Chinese were killed because they're wearing kimono (haiz...). Actually the production has completed and the serials was already aired... For more information, peruse this site if you know Chinese: |
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babyblue
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Posted: 01-Nov-2004 at 05:14 |
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any Han chinese should be killed if they're seen wearing kimono...
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hansioux
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Posted: 01-Nov-2004 at 13:32 |
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sephodwyrm Thank you, but that is not the same production. You are talking about the TV series which I have the DVD for. They couldn't find people that spoke Seediq, therefore all the aboriginals spoke in Mandarin. Which is horrible. The movie is going to be completely in Seediq. And it is a seperate production.
To Kulong, That will have to depend of what your definition of Aboriginal is. Take Latin America for example, groups like the Yanomamos might be considered Aboriginal or indeginous. However so are most of the Latin American population who no longer practice their traditional way of living. They never immigrated to Latin America, they are also Aboriginal, native or however you may want to call them. So from that point of view, most of people in Taiwan are Aboriginals. The immigrated populations are the minority. They are just the dominant culture. I hope you see the difference. Edited by hansioux |
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Begging plea of the weak can only receive disrespect, violence and oppression as bestowments. Blood and sweat of the weak can only receive insult, blame and abuse as rewards.
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hansioux
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Posted: 01-Nov-2004 at 15:48 |
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Should any Han Chinese be killed for wearing a wasternized outfit? Say... T-shirt? Baseball cap? NBA jereseys? Suit? Jeans? Cargo pants? Most of these Han Taiwanese that wore Kimono worn it because if they want to make bussiness with the Japanese they had to. The important thing is that the aboriginals made the effort NOT to kill Han Taiwanese because they understood who the real enemy was. There were a lot of Aboriginals wearing Kimonos on that day as well. But since most Aboriginals knew each other, they weren't harmed. Edited by hansioux |
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Begging plea of the weak can only receive disrespect, violence and oppression as bestowments. Blood and sweat of the weak can only receive insult, blame and abuse as rewards.
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Tobodai
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Posted: 01-Nov-2004 at 21:23 |
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a constructive addition to our forum as always |
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I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
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hansioux
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Posted: 01-Nov-2004 at 21:24 |
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hahaha~~ |
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Begging plea of the weak can only receive disrespect, violence and oppression as bestowments. Blood and sweat of the weak can only receive insult, blame and abuse as rewards.
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babyblue
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004 at 01:24 |
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yep... |
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babyblue
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004 at 01:27 |
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sorry to make you write that big a load of stuff... i should've added a smiley or something to indicate that i'm only joking...in case you didn't know...i like to sound funny and stupid most of the time...it wasn't really meant to be offensive any japanese or anything. besides...there's no japanese in this forum for me to offend... Edited by babyblue |
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hansioux
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004 at 05:24 |
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yeah, most of the people on this forum are either Chinese, Corean, or Taiwanese. With some exception of Singaporean and some North Americans.
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Begging plea of the weak can only receive disrespect, violence and oppression as bestowments. Blood and sweat of the weak can only receive insult, blame and abuse as rewards.
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warhead
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004 at 09:25 |
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No north koreans, I always want to speak to one.
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004 at 17:56 |
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I think Tobodai is Japanese....My clan origionates from what is now
North Korea...but I don't think that counts as that was a long time
ago....
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TMPikachu
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004 at 19:37 |
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We invented kimono's though. We also invented Japan.
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hansioux
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Posted: 02-Nov-2004 at 19:39 |
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Kimono was dA (Wu-Fu), a popular Han styled dress from south of the Long River. However the Japanese did improve it though. |
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Begging plea of the weak can only receive disrespect, violence and oppression as bestowments. Blood and sweat of the weak can only receive insult, blame and abuse as rewards.
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