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    Posted: 13-Feb-2006 at 11:53

M343 - R1b
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edit: just found additional info.



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Guess it's not the most common type in Iran, is it?

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About 5%, if your pies are to be believed.  I was supsicious at first until I found a proper HG genome breakdown.  I can explain this by Alani (ArdAlan) settlement in my region after the Hunnic invasion, either that or it's true that we used to be same as Germans.
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Intersting

Wow!!
You are very slow!!
How do you travel??
after 20000+ years arrived to Iran & after 40000 years you entered to Scotland
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What is the web site for this - pm me this Zargos please!
It looks interesting
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Spencer Wells is from National Geographic, yes? Did you do their genetic test?
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That is from my personal login, you can access the info from this site though, just click on the atlas of the human journey, one of the top tabs.

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

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Intersting

Wow!!
You are very slow!!
How do you travel??
after 20000+ years arrived to Iran & after 40000 years you entered to Scotland

or very fast



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Originally posted by Herschel

Spencer Wells is from National Geographic, yes? Did you do their genetic test?

Yes I sent off the kit about 3 months ago, mine needed quite a bit of additional testing, according to them.
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Do they like ethnically "clean" people? Or could a mutt like me with Irish, German, and Norwegian blood do that also?
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what?!

loool

no, it is just your paternal line, it will tell u where it came from, depends where your fathers line goes back to, but for those ethnicities, it is like 85% likely you will be R1b too. 

I have maternal ancestry from central, northern and western iran, that is about as 'muttish' as irish, german and norgske combined, probably even more so, given a place like Iran.

 



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I've heard of this project and find it very interesting as I'm very interested in genealogy. Perhaps it would be an idea to participate...
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Guys, this is impossible, when a people is specially mixed (like in USA) there isn't one line, there are many lines...
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there is only one paternal line, however u want to look at it.

your father, your grandfather father, your great grandfather, somehwere along the line mine was carrying r1b apparently.

 

 
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That is, you only can search a minimal portion of your genetical history, if in the past a german, celt, alan, arab and italian was mixed, you can see without doubt the line of males in your father side... Interesting
         &nbs p;         &nbs p;         &nbs p;         &nbs p;   
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Originally posted by Maju



Guess it's not the most common type in Iran, is it?

I am not sure if there has been an extensive enough study done to say it is or it is not common, but Zagros is the 3rd Iranian in this study I have heard that his this type

 
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Originally posted by Ikki

That is, you only can search a minimal portion of your genetical history, if in the past a german, celt, alan, arab and italian was mixed, you can see without doubt the line of males in your father side... Interesting
         &n bs p;          &n bs p;          &n bs p;          &n bs p;   

This is not about how mixed or pure someone is.  The fact is that at some point a man with r1b came to North Western Iran and married with indigenous women, and I am his direct descendant, his line was never broken.  That is, no one (such as arabs, turks or mongols for example) came and killed him then took his wife, or his daughter and procreated.

This is not a purity of race test, it is a lineage test.

Miller, where else did u hear or see of Iranians with this marker? It would be interesting to know where in Iran they are from.
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One is from north eastern Iran I am not sure were the other comes from. They identify themself as Persian
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does this mean your greek?
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Originally posted by Miller

One is from north eastern Iran I am not sure were the other comes from. They identify themself as Persian

Then the Alan root for me is unlikely, if it is distributed so widely, it must predate the Alans, any other major migration to the area which could have brought it would be Medean or Persian. 

Leo, I am not sure what the major Greek HGs are but I don't think r1a or b are among them.



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