Muslim groupings - Clarification please?

Second point, who told you that Wahhabis don't accept Hadith? As a graduate of a wahhabi education system I beg to differ. They do have stricter conditions to accept a hadith that deals with theology but that is it, in the rest they follow traditional ruling of the madhabs.

 

Finally, the reason why sunnis are called orthodox is because they are literally are. Orthodox means the follower of the original way. Since shiism only appeared (as an establsihed sect with its own philosophy and religious dogmas) in the mid 8th century (150 years after the prophet) and other sects developed later (except for Kharijites who actually adopt alot of sunni doctrines), I think the naming is appropriate.

 

Al-Jassas

 

 

I simlple have few rules:
Never confuse:
1:Person to countrys
2:Nation to languages
3:people to religions

I write and play music Songs,
 "Baglama/Saz" A wary special instrument even to none Aleviy Turks, since I am new member, to make it clear, I am at the knolige to write a history book, but every sorce that I'll like to point to is mucked with therefore it is no deferent to trying pin point to an pree historic event.

I hope we all  Know what "Sufi" standsfore? lol, I can call it "Sifu" in chinese it is Hoca, or teacher, and one dosent have to have fath or belong to any belive system to be "Sufi" Sufis'm is a belive system on its own yet it is because of the Sufi's that religions stay alive and gets passed on, and in Turkish "Sufi" has other names but, by peoples comman language, "Sofu" wary relegus person it come to be knowen, a fanatick,  but its not sim-ple is that whan there is Turk in it, I had stoped reserching some years back, sudinly I'm joging my memory. 
As for Ata Yasar from 1106 to 1166.
By any calander, he didnt live before Islam, he was a poet Muslim mystic: some call him the pioneer of popular mysticism.
Yes he did had  powerful influence throughout the Turkish speaking world. Was he Turkish? no one can say, yet founder of firs Turkish Tarika or Tariqad, it seems like its not what but in what language. Without prejudes: at the time Moslums from other nationalities was looked down up on by Arab Moslums because of none Arabic background and lets say Ata made it pousible for Turkish people to read and write Islam in their own language, 'does Allah or God only thinks and cominicates in Arabic?' no, it is all a long tyring work.
 Birth place of Hoca Ahmed Yaseviy Yasi? a place in Turkistan or Yaseve is Sayram both names foun in Kazakistan now.  Just like the firs men, Turks and how and why? they left Central Asia is still unknowen to say this is this!
Here we are talking about before Chrise, 'The big migration of Turks, or was it?,
 the world cals it that ,
if Turks didnt live their land their on now for unknowen years, whay would all the Turks live Central asia, Nicks "Basibozuk" or "Arpaslan" made me happy that some one got hold of the true history records, but with all due respact, good intend ill information no goot to, this man didnt live before Islam, however it is good not to just push a side such people, to put together a tarika back than was like building an Ampire, and to say Turks are or was and or Asians was and or from one and other is not right to, not every Turk will like to be or wants to be Asion,  just as people rendomly use the word "Kizilbas" or Redhead where Shii is Greenhead, its due to colours they put on.Most of the Moslums who mind theirown thing would know the names Aleviy Kizilbas,to most it=same same and wouldnt even know what  is mant by "Kizilbas"  ,Aleviy is open name "Ali"viy, yet polomic use the name Kizilbas, it=lower level  servent of Ali+eviy, ugly mind of palomic wont stop, in the pass just as polomic frouned at the Turk for being a Turk insted of loving and being happy that Turk is a Moslom, the only nation in anyones history and  the only nation in the world who lifted up Islam everytime it fall, that is one thing I or anyone with bit of knolige about history can say forsure.

 

Turgay