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Mortaza
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Topic: Convert Hagia Sophia back to a church Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 08:38 |
When the Greeks were asked to leave Turkey,it was asked from them to become Muslim,did you know this?
Infact noone asked greek to leave, they left istanbul with their own wish, because they didnot want to live with so turks and goverment who have large anti-greek feeling.(for exp the pogrom)
Both church and greece tried to stop them, but they went.
You are talking like turkey exiled them, turkey just made life difficult for them, they sold their properties, and left the istanbul.(Armenians didnot)
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R_AK47
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 12:42 |
Originally posted by Zagros
Originally posted by erci
magnificent
tho 2 more minarets would make it even better and maybe a larger crescent on top
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Yes, two more HUUUGE minarets to praise allah for giving such a magnificent gift to the people of Islam, and I definately hear you on the crescent.
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We should take that minaret and shove it up.......
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 13:47 |
Allah be praised we will add some minarets to that ugly heap at St Peters one day soon and beautify it too, when Turkey joins the EU that will happen.
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Mortaza
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 14:01 |
errr this is becoming inderesting.
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Heraclius
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 14:52 |
Originally posted by Zagros
Allah be praised we will add some minarets to that ugly heap at St Peters one day soon and beautify it too, when Turkey joins the EU that will happen. |
*shudder*
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A tomb now suffices him for whom the world was not enough.
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 15:28 |
Shudder!? You shudder? St Paul's is up for renovation next, you can shudder all u want then
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 15:28 |
If it is going to end Greek whining, we should convert not only Ayasofya but also Blue Mosque to a church.
Allah be praised we will add some minarets to that ugly heap at St Peters one day soon and beautify it too, when Turkey joins the EU that will happen. |
Aamin. Inshallah, the day will come when the Pope will lead the Friday prayer.
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 15:45 |
alhamdolillah.
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Heraclius
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 16:10 |
Originally posted by Zagros
Shudder!? You shudder? St Paul's is up for renovation next, you can shudder all u want then |
I'm not even Christian but you touch that damn building and i'll break your neck
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A tomb now suffices him for whom the world was not enough.
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Spartakus
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 16:14 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
turkey just made life difficult for them, they sold their properties, and left the istanbul.(Armenians didnot) |
Just TOO difficult you mean?
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"There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. "
--- Joseph Alexandrovitch Brodsky, 1991, Russian-American poet, b. St. Petersburg and exiled 1972 (1940-1996)
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 16:53 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
When the Greeks were asked to leave Turkey,it was asked from them to become Muslim,did you know this?
Infact noone asked greek to leave, they left istanbul with their own wish, because they didnot want to live with so turks and goverment who have large anti-greek feeling.(for exp the pogrom) |
I think, he is confused with the deportations after the Cyprus issue. The Greek, living in Istanbul in 1960s without Turkish passports, were deported (after 1963) because of the tension triggered by the massacred Turks in Cyprus.
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 20:12 |
St. Peter and St. Paul architectually islamified?
I would do everything in my power........
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 20:52 |
I think it's better to make all them museums or post offcies and let
the people pray at home if they wish. Too many religious buindings
around and too much inter-sectary strife... In USSR they knew better
and reycled them into stables (some).
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Omar al Hashim
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 21:01 |
I had a picture once of a mosque just below the Vatican. Unfortunately I can't find it now.
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 21:09 |
The price to pay to lose to a foreign culture, your churches are desecrated, your wives and daughters rape and your children to slavery.
France was attempting a last crusade against the Turks during the renaissance, to chase them from Constantinople, that's why we invaded Italy, but it triggered a series of unexpected events and in the end we allied the people we were set to destroy. How ironic.
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 21:26 |
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
I had a picture once of a mosque just below the Vatican. Unfortunately I can't find it now.
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Sure. But we have yet to find a picture of a Hindu temple near the Great Mosque. Tolerance is a multilateral thing.
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 21:41 |
Originally posted by Maju
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
I had a picture once of a mosque just below the Vatican. Unfortunately I can't find it now.
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Sure. But we have yet to find a picture of a Hindu temple near the Great Mosque. Tolerance is a multilateral thing.
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Non Catholics aren't allowed in the Vatican. I have no problem with
this. (Although I really would love to check out the vatican library
one day)
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 21:44 |
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
Originally posted by Maju
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
I had a picture once of a mosque just below the Vatican. Unfortunately I can't find it now.
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Sure. But we have yet to find a picture of a Hindu temple near the Great Mosque. Tolerance is a multilateral thing.
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Non Catholics aren't allowed in the Vatican. I have no problem with this. (Although I really would love to check out the vatican library one day)
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Really? Are you certain that non-Catholics may not enter Vatican city?
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Omar al Hashim
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 22:20 |
I'm pretty sure that only catholic men are. But maybe thats only in certain areas of the vatican
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R_AK47
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Posted: 30-Jan-2006 at 23:26 |
Well, it appears that this thread has degenerated into many of us discussing adding and removing minarets from different religious buildings. I guess we will all just have to wait and see what the fate of Hagia Sophia is. I do wish someone would invest some money into preserving the building while the rest of us debate its future. It would be terrible if, after all the arguing, the building was completely deteriorated from neglect (though I have not changed my opinions on what should be done with the building).
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