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    Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 17:28
I have several Osprey books that detail individual battles. I think that they are very good, well illustrated, and easily readable. I have been less impressed with the other series that Osprey produces.
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  Quote Evrenosgazi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Mar-2006 at 18:18

Very brief and not enough, when the book finish , I feel I red a newspaper, but a good project

 

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  Quote Conan the destroyer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 19:02
Originally posted by Mangudai

Osprey books vary a lot in quality. The quality ranges from pure crap to great sources of learning. I have some 30 books, a few are really bad, most are mediochre and a handful are great. Of the books I own the worst are written by David Nicolle and Stephen Turnbull. Both authors tend to be careless with facts and in the case of Nicolle - way too fictious and speculative.

The older books tend to be boring (dry texts and unimaginative illustrations) and contain outdated facts, especially if they deal with ancient times. The illustrators and their works also vary in quality - Angus McBride is a great artist but his numerous illustrations tend to be very fictious and historical inaccurate. Graham Turner on the other hand is one of the world's top military illustrators whose illustrations are both beautifuly realistic and historical accurate. Please check out his webpage btw. 

Definitely agree with you on Graham Turner, really great artist IMO.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 18:32
I read a couple of them about classical ages armies but i cant say i am thrilled with them. I also share the same opinion with the previous account about Sekunda.
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  Quote Conan the destroyer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Feb-2006 at 04:16

The stuff on early imperial China is reasonably good, but the "Medieval" and "Late Imperial" volumes are very inaccurate.

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  Quote Lannes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2006 at 17:54

I own around 20 of them, and so long as you don't take them as the definitive work in that field, they are generally quite useful little overviews.  As others have mention, the quality of them varies greatly, and the facts and illustrations can get a bit too fictitious (as a general rule of thumb, if an Osprey illustration or bit of text sounds too wild to be true, it usually is).

As for the authors, I've got to say I'm not fond of Sekunda.  He tends to base excessively wild speculations on too little, or in fact, no evidence and is otherwise inaccurate often.  Though I'll admit some of his theories are at times well supported and intriguing.

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  Quote Emperor Barbarossa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 12:12
I got one on the Hussite Wars and it was pretty good. I haven't checked out any other ones though.

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They are not that accurate but preety good on overall...
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  Quote Mangudai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jan-2006 at 15:24

Osprey books vary a lot in quality. The quality ranges from pure crap to great sources of learning. I have some 30 books, a few are really bad, most are mediochre and a handful are great. Of the books I own the worst are written by David Nicolle and Stephen Turnbull. Both authors tend to be careless with facts and in the case of Nicolle - way too fictious and speculative.

The older books tend to be boring (dry texts and unimaginative illustrations) and contain outdated facts, especially if they deal with ancient times. The illustrators and their works also vary in quality - Angus McBride is a great artist but his numerous illustrations tend to be very fictious and historical inaccurate. Graham Turner on the other hand is one of the world's top military illustrators whose illustrations are both beautifuly realistic and historical accurate. Please check out his webpage btw. 

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  Quote D.C. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Jan-2006 at 07:23

The only book I have from Osprey is a large, hardback book about the Boar War, its by Martin Marix Evans. Its alright I suppose, after buying it I found alot of better Boer War books (most of which were Australian in focus, which was more to my interest).

As for the Men at Arms and similar type series, whilst I think the artwork is well done and they look nice, they are a little too pricey for what they are.

My $0.02.

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-Jan-2006 at 17:17
i have 2 Campaign books Yarmuk by Nicolle and Kalka River by Shpakovski & Nicolle, both are of the highest quality, don't know about Constantinople or Hattin but the medieval age and especially the Islamic world is were Nicolles excells.
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The Vimmy Ridge book was a good read, its the only Osprey I have read. I am thinking in getting more WW1 books because of the high quality.
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  Quote Alkiviades Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2006 at 03:14

I find the Osprey series more than decent, especially the MaA and Elites series, but I am fairly dissapointed with the campaign series. So far I've read two of them (lended from a friend to write some articles) by the same author (D. Nicols) about the sack of Constantinople and Hattin and they are both not quite good. Many innacuracies, mediocre descriptions, lack of background, lack of analytical thinking... Perhaps it's just the particular author (even though he's considered one of the top writers that work for Osprey) or the very tight-ass military orientation of those books (when describing an event as Hattin or Constantinople needs a solid background of general knowledge pertaining the particular periods and events).

The plates are top-quality though and fairly accurate. Although in the Ancient Greeks series they have numerous innacuracies (for instance, Osprey's books is one of the most infleuental factors in the spread of the utterly false idea that Spartans fought butt-naked).

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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Jan-2006 at 17:06
yes, also a good book, btut eh anem of the book is confusing, it actually isn't about arthur but armies on the british isles from the end of roman times up until the norman conquest, it has late Romans, Vikings, Irish, Picts and mayn Anglo-Saxons of course.
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  Quote Roberts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 23:02
What do you think of "Arthur and the Anglo-Saxon Wars"?
Is this book good?
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Jan-2006 at 21:14

i must have by now around 100 books, mostly MaA and Elite and few warrior and Campaign series. there are only 5 books or so i got that i was REALLY dissapointed with.

Age of charlemagne is good, Armies of islam too, but theres now a better oen around, armies of the calipahtes which covers the same period but is more specific and up to date, maybe too specific.

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  Quote tadamson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jan-2006 at 20:10
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Titles are--
from men at arms:
The Armies of Islam 7th - 11th Centuries
The Age of Charlemagne


Good choices..
Both older books but very good.  Armies of Islam is a bit superficial but that is because it is covering a vast range of states. Age of Charlemen is excellent.
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  Quote Roberts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Jan-2006 at 09:08
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Almost all the Osprey books are good value for money, however there are overlaps and many of the texts are dated so include errors that you may not be aware of.  The Medieval European books are very good, the Chinese try to do too much (Though I think Chris did an outstanding job in the space available).
You should be aware that for most books the text is written by one author, the illustrations added by an editor and the colour plates comissioned from an artist soth the three can be a bit disparate.

The 'Men at Arms', 'New Vanguard', 'Warrior' and 'Elite' books are small but often contain a very large amount of useful information.  The 'Essential Histoeies' series I'm less impressed with, I prefer academic texts, and find the Ospreys a bit too short. Some prople love the 'Campaigns' series but I've never been excited enough to buy one.

They occasionaly do some 'specials' that are basically three 'Men at Arms' titiles published as a single book, these are very good value.

Again,  for more specific advice let us know the titles you are considering for a first purchase, or a specific subject.


Titles are--
from men at arms:
The Armies of Islam 7th - 11th Centuries
The Age of Charlemagne


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Almost all the Osprey books are good value for money, however there are overlaps and many of the texts are dated so include errors that you may not be aware of.  The Medieval European books are very good, the Chinese try to do too much (Though I think Chris did an outstanding job in the space available).
You should be aware that for most books the text is written by one author, the illustrations added by an editor and the colour plates comissioned from an artist soth the three can be a bit disparate.

The 'Men at Arms', 'New Vanguard', 'Warrior' and 'Elite' books are small but often contain a very large amount of useful information.  The 'Essential Histoeies' series I'm less impressed with, I prefer academic texts, and find the Ospreys a bit too short. Some prople love the 'Campaigns' series but I've never been excited enough to buy one.

They occasionaly do some 'specials' that are basically three 'Men at Arms' titiles published as a single book, these are very good value.

Again,  for more specific advice let us know the titles you are considering for a first purchase, or a specific subject.


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