stunning speech on how to destroy America

This saddens and upsets me!!!

Please take the time to read this; It ought to scare the pants off
you! We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration over population conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia,"
explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.
Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and Gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat Spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said,"If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich,then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"
Here is how they do it," Lamm said: �First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive
The tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada,Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities
press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.".
Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism'
And encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority.
Every other explanation is out of bounds. Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As
Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success
Of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved
not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences
rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities." "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the
least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated,and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high. school.""My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."
"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual
citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people
worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia,threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- >From many,one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus'. Instead of the'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo." "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a wordsimilar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate.
Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established
multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of
'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would
develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore.
The cumulative impact of millions of them."In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow.
Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan To destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read
That book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous
Cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room Knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly,yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational
System and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female Genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America
-take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal Aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In
That story,three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War Is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength.".Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the
conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is
deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monsterstopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and Destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.Thought provoking? Send it on !!

Yeah.. How exactly does he support his "plan for destruction" which is really nothing more than the viewpoint of an intolerant anglo-saxon protestant individual on what's happening in the United States?

He talks about Toynbee, but Toynbee's central thesis was that every country/civilization encounters challenges and it is whether those challenges are met or not that determines if it rises or falls. The fall is not always inevitable once a challenge is presented, in other words.

He gives absolutely no explanation whatsoever connecting the 2nd to 5th points to the "downfall of America". He simply says "invent multiculturalism" for example and then doesn't actually go on to express how the apparition of multiculturalism actually undermines society.

As for the author of the speech, Dick Lamm, read the following article to see what kind of person he is:

http://www.cato.org/dailys/7-28-96.html

The whole thing is a rant with a racist slant against immigration in the United States, with minimal argumentation and an alarmist overtone.

Thanks, Eaglecap, for bringing our racist, anti-Mexican thought of the day.

I do have a question: why does the former governor has so much fear? Why does he believe he and his culture is so weak?

When our Grandparents came over from Europe, they were hated by alot of Americans already here, saying that they would be the downfall of the country. They lived in towns and on streets primarly of their nationality or ethnicity. They all wanted to be American and wanted to live the American dream.

The immigrants of today do the same, but I don't know if they are working into our own culture. Maybe in a generation or two, but it really seems like they aren't trying to be apart of society. And Hugoestr, what I've said has nothing to do with race, I wish the whole race thing would just disappear. Morgan Freeman wants to get rid of Black History month because he feels it's a reminder of race and seperation and not unity.

What I'd like to see is everyone in unity in this country, everyone tends to seperate themselves as if in oil and water. The image of race has to disappear, and alot of cultures seperate the idea of sepperation. I mean even in some rap music it makes fun of white people, and while I understand the idea of freedom of speach, groups like the KKK are dangerous to this country as a whole. I think it's all a paradox... We can put a limit to help unite but it will contradict what we are.

This whole thing is overblown.  Victor Davis Hansen has become a best selling writer since 9-11, and needs to keep that train on track.  Controversy keeps you selling and speaking for a fee.  I don't know what Lamm's recent agenda is and I don't care.

In the mid XIX cent. the influx of Catholic Irish was going to turn us into a colony of Rome.  In the 1920s, Italian immigration would be the cause of "organized crime" taking over the country.  Now we are all going to wear sombreros and eat spicier food.  Hogwash.

New immigrant communities have always retained their languages for a time, and have moved into English in later generations.  I do agree with statutes that many states have passed that the "official" language be English....and I expect it will be.  It is here.

 

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Originally posted by hugoestr Thanks, Eaglecap, for bringing our racist, anti-Mexican thought of the day. I do have a question: why does the former governor has so much fear? Why does he believe he and his culture is so weak?

I see nothing anti Mexican in the view but maybe he is so it would be worth learning more about his reasons. I personally believing in reducing most immigration except from Canada and Mexico.
Why is it when someone says illegal all some here is Mexican, only 50% of illegals are from Mexico?

Originally posted by eaglecap Originally posted by hugoestr Thanks, Eaglecap, for bringing our racist, anti-Mexican thought of the day. I do have a question: why does the former governor has so much fear? Why does he believe he and his culture is so weak? I see nothing anti Mexican in the view but maybe he is so it would be worth learning more about his reasons. I personally believing in reducing most immigration except from Canada and Mexico. Why is it when someone says illegal all some here is Mexican, only 50% of illegals are from Mexico?

That is my question: why does ex-Governor Bigot focuses on Mexican immigrants?

The man is clearly describing Mexican immigrants. He talks about the language, the customs, bilingualism, and    Mexifornia.

And I see Mexican immigrants because by his description, one cannot tell apart those who are here legally and those who are not.

His method is fear. He says that if we do not stop those "immigrants," they will take over our country.

The man is a coward. After preaching hatred, he is afraid of being called a xenophobe and a racist, so he uses a weasel clause to protect himself.

Well, this man is a bigot and he is spreading racial hatred against Mexicans.

Maybe you can tell Eaglecap:
Why are these people such cowards? What are they afraid of? Why do they feel that their culture is so weak?

Originally posted by SearchAndDestroy When our Grandparents came over from Europe, they were hated by alot of Americans already here, saying that they would be the downfall of the country. They lived in towns and on streets primarly of their nationality or ethnicity. They all wanted to be American and wanted to live the American dream. The immigrants of today do the same, but I don't know if they are working into our own culture. Maybe in a generation or two, but it really seems like they aren't trying to be apart of society. And Hugoestr, what I've said has nothing to do with race, I wish the whole race thing would just disappear. Morgan Freeman wants to get rid of Black History month because he feels it's a reminder of race and seperation and not unity. What I'd like to see is everyone in unity in this country, everyone tends to seperate themselves as if in oil and water. The image of race has to disappear, and alot of cultures seperate the idea of sepperation. I mean even in some rap music it makes fun of white people, and while I understand the idea of freedom of speach, groups like the KKK are dangerous to this country as a whole. I think it's all a paradox... We can put a limit to help unite but it will contradict what we are.

What you have said has nothing to do with race. That is true. The original post was the person who introduced ethnic hatred. Read over the post again. You will see that it is very evident that the man is talking about culture, not about immigrants.

And let me respectfully disagree with your statement that today's immigrants are not participating in our culture. Every person from my generation in our family speaks English. My parents always encouraged me to speak English. Most of my uncles and aunts became American citizens when one had to renouce to their Mexican citizenship. They did it. The Spanish-speaking media encourages everyone to learn English and to become citizens.

The people who promote racial and ethnic hatred are people like the ex-governor: Politicians that exploit economic hardships that Americans are living through today for their personal gain.

The ex-governor is the one who is turning the normal immigrant experience into a culture war. He is the one that is attacking other ethnic groups. He is the one who is inciting people to bigotry.

And let me respectfully agree with your last point. It would be much better if we can all mature and move away from our ethnic identities, and realized that we are all human beings who deserve respect and dignity.

hugoestr the more I read about this man the less I like and agree with him but I agree with Ghengis that multiculturalism taken to that extreme is bad for our nation. I believe in the melting pot and not the chamber pot. When others come here they assimilate and aspects of Mexican, Italian, Greek, Chinese,Arab, African or whatever become American. But, in a way that is fair to both American and our nieghbors to the north and south, we need to protect our borders and push the issue of English being the numero uno language. I do believe that Spanish and French should be taught at very young ages to encourage Americans to speak a 2nd language. I also have encourage immigrants to teach their childern their native language so it will be easier to learn Spanish or whatever.
hugoestr I apologize if you take this as anti Mexican from me, it was not my intention. I do have some concerns about some radical Hispanic groups who say they want to take back California and the SW for Mexico but I do not believe, for a minute, the majority of Mexican immigrants feel that way. I am just concerned about the future of our great nation and if there was a flood a illegals from Greece or Germany my stance would not change.
Way before this was an issue to me I have supported legal immigration from the south. I have spent time in the Mazatlan and Baja regions of Mexico and I know the culture there more than most of the people on this forum.



By the way, the most economically-vibrant places of the U.S. are all cosmopolitan centers where people of all colors, nationalities, ethnicities, religions, and languages live and work together, not socially and economically backward rural Alabama or Georgia where some Bible-thumping racist morons

Now this I find to be stereotypical and rude but I will not waste my time commenting to it. But, I know a number of Christians and while I do not agree with their faith I find most are the leasted bigoted people I hav ever met. I have met many Christian Mexicans in Walla Walla so mr Canada are they bigots and morons, no offense to you meant.

Originally posted by Genghis I would like to point out though, that the idea of multiculturalism is dangerous and works against assimilation, however it seems to be mostly a liberal buzzword and the large impersonal forces of economic necessity will ensure that communities will assimilate if they want to prosper.

I am not even sure if "multiculturalism" is the official policy of the United States. It IS that of countries like Canada and Australia, but as far as I know, the United States favors the "melting pot" approach to assimilate immigrants. Which approach is better is really open to debate. Just look at the recent ethnic riots in Australia. Even in Canada, even though we haven't witnessed riots of a similar scale, it doesn't mean ethnic tension does not exist. Overall, though, I think the multiculturalist approach has been working relatively well here. There will always be hyphenated-Canadians as we are a country of immigrants. But that's not necessarily a bad thing as long as people always identify themselves as Canadian first, which I think is mostly the case even among first-generation immigrants with all their difficulty in adjusting to the culture and language(s) here.