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TheDiplomat
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Topic: Beauty Posted: 02-Jan-2006 at 09:26 |
Beauty emerges with the silence of existance
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And on that bombshell............
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Posted: 03-Jan-2006 at 04:35 |
Beauty emerges when a tall sexy, sassy black woman with spunk and a large afro breaks the silence of existence by startin gup the funk music.
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Posted: 03-Jan-2006 at 04:40 |
Beauty is nature's way of tricking us into having sex. Sex is nature's way of tricking us into reproducing
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Posted: 03-Jan-2006 at 16:20 |
Originally posted by TheDiplomat
Beauty emerges with the silence of existance |
-Beauty emerges through the eye of the beholder. Beauty is defined through personal preferance, personal interpretation and personal prejudice. The individual always determines the nature and value of beauty, thus beauty is no more than the minds creation. The nature of man is that of value, that where all things have different degrees of worth. What makes Da Vinci's art priceless? Can the value of a musical genius such as Beethoven really be determined by means other than human appreciation? Beauty represents the traits we have been conditioned to appreciate. The definition of beauty varies by that which is viewed as beautiful. It is impossible to compare the beauty of a striking lady to that of say the beauty which we see in our countries flag. Beauty is determined by that which is beautiful to the observer, thus beauty can always hold many forms.
-How could beauty emerge with the silence of existence? The silence of existence can mean either: (A)- The item ceases to exist, or (B)- That which exists is unobservable or literally silent, depending on how you wish to interpret the statement. If an item ceases to exist, then that item can not be viewed as beautiful. However, beauty can emerge from something that once did not exist. For example, the beauty of a new born child or the beautiful sound played from a saxophone that has never been played is beauty that emerges as new. Non-existence can produce beauty, thus beauty can emerge with the silence of existence in this first interpretation. For the second option, the statement must be broken into two alternate questions. First, can that which is unobservable be considered as beautiful? and Can that which is silent be considered beautiful? For the first question, let's use an example concerning human spirituality. The love people have for their god is considered beautiful to many, but God can not be observed at this point in time. Whether or not there is a god is not the idea of interest here, but rather whether or not that god or love for the god can be considered beautiful? If the love for a god which is unobservable brings a person happiness, than yes, we can say that their god is beautiful for what they bring into their lives. Now, it is easy to answer the second question. Can that which is silent be considered beautiful. Simply, can that which does not make sound be considered beautiful? The writings of Shakespeare make no sound unless they are read aloud. The stars in the sky make no sound that can be heard through the human ear. Many would agree that these things are beautiful, thus answering the second question.
-Beauty emerges with the silence of existence. Beauty actually emerges through the mind, but that beauty can emerge through the silence of existence depending on how you wish to examine the statement.
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Posted: 04-Jan-2006 at 11:31 |
Thanks Jhangora
The flower made me aware of my existance...
one can reach perefct silence if he focuses on it.
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Posted: 31-Jan-2006 at 11:28 |
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Posted: 31-Jan-2006 at 13:49 |
Originally posted by Amedeo
Instead of engaging in a general phenomenology of beauty (or proceeding through an analytical comparison of the inserted pictures), let's ask ourselves:
What is beauty ["the beautiful", "To Kalon"] in music?
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Lets stick to the topic Amedeo.You may start a new thread to discuss what is beauty in music.
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Posted: 31-Jan-2006 at 18:07 |
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder to the limit where 200 pounds of
man flesh is crossed. Nobody feels attracted towards fat people when
you regard physical beauty and that is what matters most of the time.
There is no eye of the beholder when you have a donut eating, jeans
wearing mass of blob and a model walking side by side, it is all
chemistry and survial of the species. I don't believe in "I love whats
inside of her/him." Nobody can tolerate only living with the insides of
someone when they are repulsively ugly on the outside. Self deception
and waiting the day you die will help tolerate that kind of a situation
better, but not "pink, fluffy love."
Every person isn't beautiful, actually most are obscene and ugly when
they take their clothes off. Everybody loves beautiful people, me too.
Of course esthetics has a more spiritual side. You can spot the beauty
of the skies and hills around you, the beauty of feelings and the
things you can't even grasp with your mind or the beauty of a dieing
person. But still, our world is mainly rules by human physical beauty.
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Posted: 31-Jan-2006 at 18:12 |
And doesn't anyone share my opinion that infants are scary and ugly on
their first months, something like a hairless ape with shut eyes that
extracts ooze and desires food for his/her future pointless existance.
A really morbid creature in that aspect.
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Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 00:56 |
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Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 07:27 |
Originally posted by Amedeo
Originally posted by Jhangora
Originally posted by Amedeo
Instead of engaging in a general phenomenology of beauty (or proceeding through an analytical comparison of the inserted pictures), let's ask ourselves:
What is beauty ["the beautiful", "To Kalon"] in music?
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Lets stick to the topic Amedeo.You may start a new thread to discuss what is beauty in music.
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I read that the thread is about BEAUTY. By the beauty of music, of paitinng, or architecture, of nature, and of other sundry things IS beauty. It cannot be different from itself. Therefore, he who speaks of beauty in music shall have spoken of that beauty which is shared by all other things.
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OK then,continue discussing in this thread.
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Posted: 01-Feb-2006 at 09:57 |
Originally posted by Kalevipoeg
And doesn't anyone share my opinion that infants are scary and ugly on their first months, something like a hairless ape with shut eyes that extracts ooze and desires food for his/her future pointless existance. A really morbid creature in that aspect. |
Hey I agree..But after a few months,they turn out to be angels...I love watching them while sleeping...It make me so peaceful inside.
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