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Poll Question: Which "world" does your country belong?
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  Quote kotumeyil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Which "world" does your country belong?
    Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 11:16
You know that this classification was made at the Cold War times. The Central Western Bloc countries were called as the "first world"; the countries of the Eastern bloc were called as the "second world" and the rest were called as the "third world". After this, the extremely poor countries who took very little share from the world income were called as the "fourth world". I just want to have statistical information about the countries where the users of AE come from...
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  Quote flyingzone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 11:48
Actually I am not sure if this is the best way to classify countries especially now that the Cold War is over. I think a better way to do so is to classify countries into developed, developing, and underdeveloped ones.
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 12:14
I voted 1st but I really think that the Basque Country belongs to a diferent World, you know. 

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  Quote kotumeyil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 12:54

Originally posted by flyingzone

Actually I am not sure if this is the best way to classify countries especially now that the Cold War is over. I think a better way to do so is to classify countries into developed, developing, and underdeveloped ones.

I just want to see the background of AE users. I think their countries' past may determine their interest and ideas about history; for example in empasizing the glorious past, or legitimizing current hegemony, or blaming the past for current backwardness, etc. I think all these might reflect the users' behaviour especially in the flame wars... 



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  Quote ArmenianSurvival Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 18:38
I voted Fourth World for Armenia.
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 21:02
Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival

I voted Fourth World for Armenia.


Bangladesh, Haiti... that's the 4th World. Areas that produce very few and have lot of people... true bantustans of the globalized Earth.

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  Quote Jay. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 22:20
I voted 2nd World for Serbia and Montenegro
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  Quote Mila Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Dec-2005 at 22:26
Bosnia and Herzegovina used to be on the border between First and Second world, now it's on the border between Second and Third.

Of course, on the surface, it looks very much like the First World.
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  Quote the Bulgarian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 02:23

I'm not sure where I should put Bulgaria - first or second? What do the other forumers think?

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  Quote kotumeyil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 02:31
Second; because I wonder about its position at the time of the Cold War
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  Quote bosnian ruler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 06:26

Bosnia belongs to the third world ecomicaly

Mila,Bosnia was never in the first world because since Bosnia existed it was in  the third,you cant count Yugoslavia(and even then Bosnia was among the most poor areas while Croatia and Slovena where the rich ones)

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  Quote ulrich von hutten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 07:02
iceland belongs only to it's own world. outpost of the civilization with to many americans . may be only (free) greenland and several small islands in the  north atlantic and the north-seas belong to a specific world , a micro cosmos.

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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 07:53
Originally posted by bosnian ruler

Bosnia belongs to the third world ecomicaly

Mila,Bosnia was never in the first world because since Bosnia existed it was in  the third,you cant count Yugoslavia(and even then Bosnia was among the most poor areas while Croatia and Slovena where the rich ones)



As far as I know, all Yugoslavia was 1st or 2nd world. Technologically, yugoslavia used to be ahead of many EU countries.

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  Quote Jhangora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 09:26
Third world....moving to first world...though not as fast as China.
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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 17:47

Originally posted by Maju



As far as I know, all Yugoslavia was 1st or 2nd world. Technologically, yugoslavia used to be ahead of many EU countries.
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I think Yugoslavia should be counted in the 3rd world despite its socialist regime under Tito.

To remind a historical fact: Yugoslavia(Tito) had attended to Bandung Conference in 1955, which many neutral countries referred with the name "Non-Aligned", belonging to neither poles came together.

Tito had never been much cordial with the Soviet Union, and always kept good relations with the leaders of third-world countries,like Gamal Abdel Nasser.

So it is the best way to put Yugoslavia into third world group.

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  Quote erci Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 18:31
overall Turkey is a third world country.big cities such as Istanbul or Izmir can be squeezed in second world category tho.
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  Quote Thegeneral Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 19:13
Lol, is it just a worldy known fact that America is first?  Or is there some other reason no one from America posted we are first?
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  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 19:19
Originally posted by Kapikulu

Originally posted by Maju



As far as I know, all Yugoslavia was 1st or 2nd world. Technologically, yugoslavia used to be ahead of many EU countries.

I think Yugoslavia should be counted in the 3rd world despite its socialist regime under Tito.

To remind a historical fact: Yugoslavia(Tito) had attended to Bandung Conference in 1955, which many neutral countries referred with the name "Non-Aligned", belonging to neither poles came together.

Tito had never been much cordial with the Soviet Union, and always kept good relations with the leaders of third-world countries,like Gamal Abdel Nasser.

So it is the best way to put Yugoslavia into third world group.



No. This categorization is by economy and, in this sense, Yugoslavia belonged to the Socialist area, being a developed country: that's the Second World. Also Sweden was then an active player in the Non-Alligned Movement, yet it clearly belonged to the 1st World.


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  Quote Mila Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 19:22
I don't understand how anyone could say Yugoslavia is third world? We're richer than the third world today, and we were far richer then.

Countries you accept as second world without debate were, quite literally, picking through our garbage for their clothes and belongings. The only place where those on the other side of the border were doing better than those on our side was the Slovenian border with Italy. Gorizia had a higher standard of living than Nova Gorica. Areas of Austria were also doing better.

Beyond that, we were lightyears ahead.
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  Quote Genghis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 21:28

Originally posted by Mila

I don't understand how anyone could say Yugoslavia is third world? We're richer than the third world today, and we were far richer then.

Countries you accept as second world without debate were, quite literally, picking through our garbage for their clothes and belongings. The only place where those on the other side of the border were doing better than those on our side was the Slovenian border with Italy. Gorizia had a higher standard of living than Nova Gorica. Areas of Austria were also doing better.

Beyond that, we were lightyears ahead.

She's right, Tito's more market socialist and not Stalinist command socialist system preserved something of a market structure in Yugoslavia and decentralized economic planning that kept the economy somewhat receptive to the wants of the people that the more top down organized economies of the rest of the Eastern Bloc didn't have.  Of all the Eastern Bloc nations, Yugoslavia had the highest standard of living.

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