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Topic: Which "world" does your country belong? Posted: 30-Dec-2005 at 22:02 |
I voted first world, Canada
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Posted: 30-Dec-2005 at 04:05 |
but if consider only my city shanghai.it should be in at least 3rd world.
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Posted: 30-Dec-2005 at 03:59 |
4th world, but it won't last too long.
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Posted: 30-Dec-2005 at 02:48 |
Oh, is that it.
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Posted: 29-Dec-2005 at 17:58 |
Originally posted by The Bulgarian
If you haven't noticed Communism is dead and today the classification is based on the countrys present day economy. |
Whether communism is dead or not is a highly debatable issue. At least at the basis of ideals it's still living and we can observe this through the current developments at Latin America. However, this isn't the point I'm interested in this topic. I'm not trying to classify countries according to their current or past economies. I just want to learn the backgrounds of AE users according to their position during the Cold War, because I think it's somewhat determining for the members' perception of history...
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Posted: 29-Dec-2005 at 04:30 |
Originally posted by kotumeyil
There's a misconception in minds of some people here. Second world does not mean "the world that is in the second rank of wealth". It is the Eastern Socialist Bloc. |
If you haven't noticed Communism is dead and today the classification is based on the countrys present day economy. It doesn't matter how well Yugoslavia was doing 15 years ago, today it's a wreck. And what's this crap about us eating through the Yugo garbidge. The wealthyest Eastern block nation was East Germany. Even under Communism Bulgaria was much better off than Yugoslavia. Infact, the only regions of Yugoslavia that were prosperous were Slovenia, Croatia and perhaps to a lesser degree Bosnia. Serbia and Macedonia were draining them of their income and investing it into the more undeveloped areas of the country, i.e. into themselves. This was one of the numerous reasons why Slovenes, Croats and Bosniaks hated Serb domination so much.
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Posted: 28-Dec-2005 at 17:28 |
there is no second or fourth world. and the whole "world" system is wrong.
it was created by a chinese guy and he put the USA and USSR in the first world (only them, no other country) and he put all the developing countries into the third world category. countries like UK, japan, France, were not classified.
and obviously, the USSR was far from the "first world" as we know it today, so this whole system is out dated. the common terms now are developed and developing.
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Posted: 28-Dec-2005 at 06:38 |
As far as I can recall Australia is about 8th or 9th, though I may be
mistaken. That puts it very comfortably in the first world. The
economic rushes in the late 19th century and post war period put us
there, the neo-liberal economic policies from the mid 70s have allowed
us to maintain the position.
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 15:22 |
Though we lost a whopping 7 places on the Human Development Index this year (12th, was 5th), the Netherlands are still solidly in the first world.
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 14:07 |
According to the topic definitions Romania would be 2nd.
My vote goes for the 3rd. Yugoslavia, Hungaria, Chechoslovakia, East Germany might have been 2nd but not Romania.
*As a matter of fact, now we're third going for fourth!
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 10:08 |
Originally posted by Maju
I voted 1st but I really think that the Basque Country belongs to a diferent World, you know. |
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 07:17 |
Thank you Maju.
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 07:14 |
Originally posted by vulkan02
Originally posted by Jhangora
Third world....moving to first world...though not as fast as China. |
Even though i never been in South Korea i think its hypocritical of you
to brand it as Third World. South Korea is definitely upper Second
World, maybe even First World... if they wouldn't the World Cup
wouldn't have been awarded to them and Japan.
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He means India. He lives in South Korea but he's Indian.
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 04:53 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
Agree we are a third world
country. But Istanbul is first world category, after all she make
60-80 of Turkey total production. Better than most cities.
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Istanbul is in worse shape than many other cities in Turkey.Only thing
that makes Istanbul is a recognizable world city is its history and
nothing else.It's not fully urbanized, it's not a planned city, it's
full of shanty neighborhoods and has a huge population while it can not
offer job for its inhabits.%60-80 all alone? I thought it was the whole
Marmara region where Kocaeli, Bursa, Bolu etc located.GaWC ranked
Istanbul in Gamma World Cities with 4 point just because it holds the
advanced producer services and is the center of the finance.
Originally posted by kotumeyil
There's a misconception in minds of some people here.
Second world does not mean "the world that is in the second rank of
wealth". It is the Eastern Socialist Bloc. |
If this is the case you're rite.But your question may refer to which country is more developed and advanced as well.
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 03:58 |
There's a misconception in minds of some people here. Second world does not mean "the world that is in the second rank of wealth". It is the Eastern Socialist Bloc.
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Posted: 27-Dec-2005 at 02:57 |
overall Turkey is a third world country.big cities such as Istanbul or Izmir can be squeezed in second world category tho.
Agree we are a third world country. But Istanbul is first world category, after all she make 60-80 of Turkey total production. Better than most cities.
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Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 21:33 |
Originally posted by Jhangora
Third world....moving to first world...though not as fast as China. |
Even though i never been in South Korea i think its hypocritical of you to brand it as Third World. South Korea is definitely upper Second World, maybe even First World... if they wouldn't the World Cup wouldn't have been awarded to them and Japan.
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Posted: 26-Dec-2005 at 21:28 |
Originally posted by Mila
I don't understand how anyone could say Yugoslavia is third world? We're richer than the third world today, and we were far richer then.
Countries you accept as second world without debate were, quite literally, picking through our garbage for their clothes and belongings. The only place where those on the other side of the border were doing better than those on our side was the Slovenian border with Italy. Gorizia had a higher standard of living than Nova Gorica. Areas of Austria were also doing better.
Beyond that, we were lightyears ahead.
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She's right, Tito's more market socialist and not Stalinist command socialist system preserved something of a market structure in Yugoslavia and decentralized economic planning that kept the economy somewhat receptive to the wants of the people that the more top down organized economies of the rest of the Eastern Bloc didn't have. Of all the Eastern Bloc nations, Yugoslavia had the highest standard of living.
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